Posts by Gladring

One of the slam dunk anti-flood evidences is the polar ice cores. Each year as snow and ice forms at the poles air is trapped. Each year a new layer is formed. If you take a core of the polar ice and count back the layers you can tell what the atmosphere was made up of in the past. Scientists use this to find out what the atmosphere and climate was over 200,000 years ago. If there was a global flood it would have melted the ice and ruined all of this data.

A similar evidence from the world of climate study: In Ireland we aren't lucky (?) enough to have ice fields going back for hundreds of thousands of years to use for climate research. However a current study is using some other data. In a lake, sediment is constantly falling to the bottom of the lake. Pollen in the air falls on the lake and gradually sinks to the bottom. This happens year on year and if the bed of the lake isn't disturbed you have a history of pollen captured in the silt. Look back through the layers and you are looking back through time. The pollen of each plant species is unique and can be identified under microscope. If you know which plants prefer what weather, by charting the most prolific pollen in each layer you have a record of climate change over time. Again a flood as described in the bible would have erased all that data. The pollen records the climate in Ireland for around 20,000 years.

What I like about the ice cores is there is absolutely no interpretation going on. It's just counting layers of ice. No ambiguity.

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I just sent an email to the governing body

by Awakened at Gilead in

i sent a link to my new video and told them that they were featured in it.

i hope this induces mass hysteria at the tower office.. i guessed the addresses, and i haven't gotten any error messages.

so if you want to send a message to the gb or anyone else, the address should be:.

Gladring

Woah, wait, you get a tour of the UN as par of the Gilead induction? Why?!

Yeah, I wondered about this too. Was this during the WT's cohabitation with said "harlot"?

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I just sent an email to the governing body

by Awakened at Gilead in

i sent a link to my new video and told them that they were featured in it.

i hope this induces mass hysteria at the tower office.. i guessed the addresses, and i haven't gotten any error messages.

so if you want to send a message to the gb or anyone else, the address should be:.

Gladring

Lance, I was just thinking about this the other day. What if the WT tries to pull this video. There's a group of people who have got together to fight against DMCAs filed by creationists. They may help if you are attacked. They created this video, maybe it will come in useful sometime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztXK1C9DzM

Steve2 said:

You're probably just what the organization needs right now to feel "special" and increase its sense of being persecuted. Although your zeal for exposing them is understandable, your confrontational, hit-em-hard approach may not be effective - unless, of course, your major aim is just to hit 'em regardless of impact?

Some people, atheists included, feel that Richard Dawkins approach is very aggressive and that it is counter-productive (I know Dawkins name is like a red rag to a bull for some people but it's just the example I am interested in here). I've seen Dawkins interviewed when he was asked about his approach compared to some other figures. His reply was along the lines that for some people another approach may work better. He felt he wasn't good at "seducing" believers into atheism and that he preferred a straightforward approach. That said, he feels that it is good that all the different approaches are out there. The straightforward approach worked for me, maybe it would put others off, but it's important that the variety of approaches is available.

I don't really see how Lance's videos are confrontational. Many times he says "I'm not saying I know better than the GB, just that there are many ways of interpreting the texts." But to the closed mind...

Keep it up Lance.

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Just read the God Delusion- JWs get a mention!!

by Kudra in

driving back from dallas to tucson i listened to in on my ipod.

unabridged version.. what surprised me is how sentimental dawkins is.

once or twice he made me tear up.

Gladring

That video is a setup. Dawkins describes what happened at http://www.skeptics.com.au/articles/dawkins.htm

That bastion of all that is "true" answersingenesis still promotes that particular "truth"

WT aren't the only cherrypicking quoteminers out there, not by a long shot.

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I cried when I watched this

by Gladring in

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an interesting animation about cupboards and drawers.

instruction manual for life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaiprrzvnjg.

Gladring

I'm glad I shared this. It really hit me because of stuff going on with me right now but it does seem to fit with what most of us have experienced. I'm sending it to some friends too. You never know what will stay with people.

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Just read the God Delusion- JWs get a mention!!

by Kudra in

driving back from dallas to tucson i listened to in on my ipod.

unabridged version.. what surprised me is how sentimental dawkins is.

once or twice he made me tear up.

Gladring

I think another high point in the audio version - again with the accent, you'll have to imagine it if you haven't heard it - is when he discusses agnosticism/atheism with reference to Bertrand Russell's teapot analogy.

He says something along the lines of: We cannot prove that there is not a teapot in between the orbits of earth and mars so strictly speaking we should all be agnostic with regard to teapots. In practice though we are all A-teapotists.

A-teapotists - in that accent, priceless.

Do you know, threads like this just aren't the same without brother apostate dumping 10 pages of cut and paste in somewhere

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Just read the God Delusion- JWs get a mention!!

by Kudra in

driving back from dallas to tucson i listened to in on my ipod.

unabridged version.. what surprised me is how sentimental dawkins is.

once or twice he made me tear up.

Gladring

I hate to break up a good argument by going back to the original topic . . .

The God Delusion on MP3 is great. Hearing Dawkins in his soft, middle class English accent say "touched by his noodly appendage" is priceless.

RAmen