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  Re: Is there a doctor in the house? Body builder?

  by FiveShadows in

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  um....hi again.. you know, i post a comment and people started tearing eachother apart.

  i work full time and have been very busy.

  i wasn't even expecting many people to respond.

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  To further clear the air I harbor no ill will towards the poster with whom I had a disagreement with. I never thought the conversation would get as contentious as it did. In fact I am sorry it got so heated. However as a health care professional, who is an expert in the field, I would have been negligent if I had not set the record straight. There was an increased risk of mortality and illness associated with his treatment recommendation. My premise is supported by medical scientific fact. I was deeply concerned not only about your health FiveShadows , but of other readers of his recommendations. Again I am sorry it got as heated as it did, however I felt it would be irresponsible to not impart medical fact. I again would encourage you to use your physician for a sounding board when it comes to medical treatments. There is an abundance of misinformation on the web regarding "alternative treatments. Remember not all alternative medicine is bad, but please be careful.

  By the way I am a Dr of medical radiation physics and I am a lithotripsy specialist.
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  Made contact with an old friend

  by recovering in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  last night i made contact with a jw that was very special in my life at one time.

  when my father died (i was still a child of 12) he and his wife where the only ones to take an interest in me and my younger brother.

  they where exceptionally good to us.

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  Last night I made contact with A JW that was very special in my life at one time. When my father died (I was still a child of 12) He and his wife where the only ones to take an interest in me and my younger brother. They where exceptionally good to us. My friend was a MS. Over the years we lost contact with each other. I finally found him by doing an internet search. He is no longer a witness and is bitter about some of their practices. He still believes in the bible, but is opposed to the unforgiving dogma of the WBTS. He related tragic news to me. His best friend and a MS committed suicide due to the pressure of being a witness. My friend and I had a long discussion about how religion should be where you turn in times of crisis. How sad the jws have missed this completely. Instead of soothing the troubled spirit of their members, they add stress and heartache to them. Does not the bible say in Jeremiah that god would be our refuge in times of trouble?

  19( AE ) O LORD, my strength and my stronghold,
  (AF) my refuge in the day of trouble,

  The witness hierarchy has a lot to answer for.
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  DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MYELODYSPLASTIC SYNDROME?

  by Mary in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i just got some awful news.

  my jw brother in law has been diagnosed with myelodysplastic syndrome.

  needless to say, we are all extremely upset as it is a potentially life-threatening illness that can turn into leukemia.

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  May I ask if your brother has been exposed to any of the following; radiation, benzene (a solvent) or other harsh chemicals? Myelodysplastic syndrome is usually the result of exposure to environmental carcinogens? My field of expertise is not oncology; however I will try to answer your questions.
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  Is there a doctor in the house? Body builder?

  by FiveShadows in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm trying to restart my body building and have met several people that work out and train on a regular basis.

  i want to get healthy, partly over the fact that my health isn't doing too good.

  i'm very thin, but the deal is, my cholestrol level is bad.

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  you have a reading comprehension problem Vinny. To do the test you must color the oil that you are ingesting, as I stated before. Please post the analysis of these stones you say are mostly cholesterol. I think it is you who have been painted into a corner Vinny. I do wish you well however.

  I am amused that the first link you provided

  Yes, many people were skeptical, and decided to analyze their stones.
  
  Analysis can only prove what stones are composed of.There is a possibility that stones are formed from bile, but formed inside intestines, not only inside billiary bile ducts.
  If results of analysis are: cholesterol, bile, pigment, bilirubin, biliverdin, protein , calcium, then there is no doubt that analyzed stone is indeed made from bile ... but we still don't know where the bile precipitated into stones.
  
  When bile precipitates into stones inside gallbladder or inside bile ducts ... these are then called Gallstones or intrahepatic stones.
  
  When bile precipitates into stones inside intestines ... it may be called feces.

  it actually proves my point lol
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  Is there a doctor in the house? Body builder?

  by FiveShadows in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm trying to restart my body building and have met several people that work out and train on a regular basis.

  i want to get healthy, partly over the fact that my health isn't doing too good.

  i'm very thin, but the deal is, my cholestrol level is bad.

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  You sir are exibiting blind faith in something that is truly unproven. That is much more like the folks sitting in the KH than my asking for scientific proof of these claims. I have provided scientific proof about people dying from cathatics. Your cleanse is a cathartic. There have been numerous reports of fatal and near-fatal cases involving hypermagnesemia either in patients receiving magnesium with unrecognized renal failure . Like I said before it is called hypermagnesemia . Do the experiment I outlined , it will either prove or disprove my point.
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  Is there a doctor in the house? Body builder?

  by FiveShadows in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm trying to restart my body building and have met several people that work out and train on a regular basis.

  i want to get healthy, partly over the fact that my health isn't doing too good.

  i'm very thin, but the deal is, my cholestrol level is bad.

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  I have tried to reason with you logically Vinny, I can see that it is hopeless. At least do not advocate a scientifically unproven cure to others. You can do whatever you want with your own body. I have shown that it is impossible for meatball or grape sized gallstones to pass out of the liver. I have explaned to you what you are expelling is bile stained congealed oil.(soap)

  I have a very easy test you can do to prove if what I am saying is true or not Vinny. Next time you do one of your cleanses put a bottle of either red food coloring in the oil you drink. Prepare everything else as you normally would. When you pass your "stones" cut one of the larger stones open. I will guarentee That it will be stained red inside. This should prove to you that the "stones" not from the liver but the congealed oil as I claim.
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  Is there a doctor in the house? Body builder?

  by FiveShadows in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm trying to restart my body building and have met several people that work out and train on a regular basis.

  i want to get healthy, partly over the fact that my health isn't doing too good.

  i'm very thin, but the deal is, my cholestrol level is bad.

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  It has never been studied Vinny that is correct. You should be asking why it has never been scientifically studied. All legitimate companies that manufacture medications support very rigorous scientific analysis of their products before they begin marketing them to the public. Also since the companies that sell this product are largely unregulated they do not keep records of mortality rates. I have already addressed the mortality of patients exposed to magnesium sulfate cathartics (The Epsom salt component of your cleanse) By the way, Vinny there are many alternative medical treatments that have been scientifically studied. Some show promise. I am not adverse to learning about an alternative to traditional medicine as long as it's efficacy can be scientifically confirmed. So bring on the scientific proof. You now know the criteria I am expecting.

  You are just a stubborn person refusing to see the truth no matter how much evidence is provided Vinny.
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  Is there a doctor in the house? Body builder?

  by FiveShadows in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm trying to restart my body building and have met several people that work out and train on a regular basis.

  i want to get healthy, partly over the fact that my health isn't doing too good.

  i'm very thin, but the deal is, my cholestrol level is bad.

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  Take my challenge Vinny show me the proof from an unbiased scientific study supporting all these wild claims. You obviously cannot Vinny. Pictures of Gallstones do not prove anything. You are free to use what ever medical treatment you wish. However, your advocacy of unproven medical treatments for others is just plain foolhardy. Again I implore you show me the scientific study. Any medical treatment that claims to cure such diverse ailments as depression to cancer to very greasy hair is obviously attempting to blow smoke to any rational person. All you have been able to provide is anecdotal evidence.

  The term anecdotal evidence is often used in contrast to scientific evidence, such as evidence-based medicine, which are types of formal accounts. Some anecdotal evidence does not qualify as scientific evidence because its nature prevents it from being investigated using the scientific method. Misuse of anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy and is sometimes informally referred to as the "person who" fallacy ("I know a person who..."; "I know of a case where..." etc. Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily representative of a "typical" experience; statistical evidence can more accurately determine how typical something is.

  When used in advertising or promotion of a product, service, or idea, anecdotal reports are often called a testimonial.

  In science, anecdotal evidence has been defined as:

  • "information that is not based on facts or careful study" [2]
  • "non-scientific observations or studies, which do not provide proof but may assist research efforts" [3]
  • "reports or observations of usually unscientific observers" [4]
  • "casual observations or indications rather than rigorous or scientific analysis" [5]
  • "information passed along by word-of-mouth but not documented scientifically"
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  Physical Child Abuse.

  by recovering in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been a member of this forum for a while.

  most of the time here limiting myself to lurking in the background without saying much (i am posting more recently).

  i was wondering those of you who where raised as jw did you experience physical abuse as a child?

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  I was raised in the 60's, It is sad to hear about the indignaties and abuse that this organazation (who claims to demonstrate brotherly love)and it's members condone if not actively encourage, subject their children to .
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  NY Post Article on sale of Brooklyn Properties

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  2. friends

  http://www.nypost.com/seven/05142007/news/regionalnews/the_land_lord_regionalnews_rich_calder.htm.

  my cousin's wife sent me a scan of a clipping of this article, without a trace of irony in her message.

  (actually, she sent it without comment at all!).

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  One of their real estate deals fell through I work very close to where bethel is. It was in the NY post in a more recent article