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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  First of all I am not supporting Islamic law Simon. The question Bandecoot asked was the following...

  Can you tell me one muslim country that embraces multiculturalism?

  I gave an example of one. There are others also. ie. Albania for example.

  Do I agree with all the laws and practices the countries aforementioned govern themselves by? No never claimed that I did.

  Glad you brought up the question of multiculturalism. I again never said I preferred multiculturalism.You do realize there is an option besides multiculturalism and a homogenous culture. What is this third option you ask? It is the melting pot of cultures ( what the U.S. Has) I prefer this melting pot of cultures.

  What is the difference between a multicultural society and a society that is more of a melting pot? A multicultural society is one where each culture is distinct from each other they may influence each other but basically do not change. in A society that is a melting pot culturally all groups influence and change each other. The cultures have fundamentally changed and become more alike. Is use same language , participate as citizens, and accept the laws and morality of the blended society.

  I read a great analogy regarding the difference. It compared a multicultural society to a cheese plate made up of many different cheeses . Though each cheese course might influence the flavor of the next each cheese retains its own unique flavor.

  A society that is cultural melting pot was compared to a pot where all the cheeses are melted together. No longer are the taste , texture and look distinct from.one another. The flavor and appearance is all mixed together .

  Understand that America is God's Crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of Europe are melting and re-forming! Here you stand, good folk, think I, when I see them at Ellis Island, here you stand in your fifty groups, your fifty languages, and histories, and your fifty blood hatreds and rivalries. But you won't be long like that, brothers, for these are the fires of God you've come to – these are fires of God. A fig for your feuds and vendettas! Germans and Frenchmen, Irishmen and Englishmen, Jews and Russians—into the Crucible with you all! God is making the American.
  -- The Melting Pot, 1908
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  Handiwork you asked if there where any Muslim countries that embrace multiculturalism.

  Here is one.

  Senegal, an East African country, even with a 95% Muslim population, adopted secularism and even had a Christian president. Muslims and Christians have been sharing good rapport in this country for long.
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

  1. social
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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  Basically you do realize that the governments of Islamic nations are considered ultra conservative. In fact many of your views eerily mirror their beliefs. For example

  1 Intolerance of other viewpoints

  2 Homogeneous cultural identity

  3 extreme conservative viewpoints.

  Those of us who are moderate champion a nonviolent resistance of extremes of both the right and the left.
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  tommy Robinson --update

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

  this is self explanatory.

  please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

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  I am opposed to Sharia law . I think it is an unimaginable horror. Before we get too full of ourselves however,take a look at the following.

  (CNN)The past week saw two remarkable developments at the United Nations, and the world took notice of both. One was the passage of a resolution condemning the use of the death penalty as punishment for consensual gay relations. LGBT groups viewed the moment as a major milestone, what the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association called a "historic first." Celebrations, however, were muted. That's because of the other occurrence: The United States, until recently a leader in the global effort to advance human rights, voted against the resolution.
  Updated 2:30 PM ET, Thu October 5, 2017

  Extremist are dangerous .It does not matter what religion or political ideology they profess.
  
  
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  Fred Franz Former Training in Ancient Greek

  by Wild_Thing in

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  has anyone been able to verify that fred franz received the minimal training in ancient greek that he claimed gave him the expertise to translate the bible?

  you would think that would be fairly easy to verify or disprove in this day and age.

  what college did he attend?

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  Please do not forget that even though the Wbts uses excerpts from Bedhuems book to validate the accuracy of the nwt he is not an expert in biblical translation. Here again the WBTS is misleading. Look at the following information.

  This book was written by Jason David BeDuhn, a professor who has his Ph.D. in “Comparative Study of Religions.” Once again, the JWs make the mistake of appealing to a non-expert to validate the accuracy of their Bible (aka false attribution). If you’re going to buy a house, do you seek advice from a realtor or a chef? If you want to prepare a good meal, do you seek advice from a chef or a realtor? If you want to know which translation of the Bible is the most accurate, do you seek the opinion of an expert in Koine Greek or do you ask a game show host and someone who got their degree in comparative religion
  
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  Fred Franz Former Training in Ancient Greek

  by Wild_Thing in

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  has anyone been able to verify that fred franz received the minimal training in ancient greek that he claimed gave him the expertise to translate the bible?

  you would think that would be fairly easy to verify or disprove in this day and age.

  what college did he attend?

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  I do not think that the main issue being presented here is how bad a translation it is( even though it is suboptimal) . The main issue is the WTBS misrepresentation of the expertise of the translator. It demonstrates how dishonest they are.
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  Fred Franz Former Training in Ancient Greek

  by Wild_Thing in

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  has anyone been able to verify that fred franz received the minimal training in ancient greek that he claimed gave him the expertise to translate the bible?

  you would think that would be fairly easy to verify or disprove in this day and age.

  what college did he attend?

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  Franz was in no way qualified to translate the bible.

  Here is an example of the qualifications of a biblical translator are....

  QUALIFICATIONS

  • Bachelor degree.
  • Previous cross-cultural experience is beneficial.

  TRAINING

  • Successful completion of courses substantially similar to the following SIL standard courses:
  • Biblical Background Studies
  • Greek or Hebrew grammar and exegesis (12 semester hours minimum)
  • Articulatory Phonetics
  • Computer Data Management
  • Cultural Anthropology
  • Language and Culture Learning
  • Language and Society
  • Linguistic Field Methods
  • Morphology and Syntax
  • Phonology
  • Semantics and Pragmatics
  • Translation Principles, Theory and Practice
  • Intercultural Communication Course for select overseas assignments.
  • Language school or self-directed language study program as required by field of assignment.
  • Cross-cultural living internship or its equivalent as required.
  • Additional courses may be required before undertaking significant work in translation, project management, or training.
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  Fred Franz Former Training in Ancient Greek

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
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  has anyone been able to verify that fred franz received the minimal training in ancient greek that he claimed gave him the expertise to translate the bible?

  you would think that would be fairly easy to verify or disprove in this day and age.

  what college did he attend?

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  Your Welcome

  Glad I could help
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  If the Gov. where you live outlawed the JWs would you turn in your family?

  by blownaway in

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  i guess it would depend for me.

  some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.

  many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.

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  No way. I would not turn on my family.
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  Fred Franz Former Training in Ancient Greek

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone been able to verify that fred franz received the minimal training in ancient greek that he claimed gave him the expertise to translate the bible?

  you would think that would be fairly easy to verify or disprove in this day and age.

  what college did he attend?

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  I have a link to some information regarding Fed Franz's transcripts. Including scans of the actual transcripts.

  http://watchthetower.net/fred2.html