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  The bible is much like the Quran in that regard. It demands death for homosexuals and those that do not follow "God's law"

  It is up to the adherent to what ever faith one belongs to how faithfully he adheres to their holy writings. Just as Christianity, and Judaism have their sects so do Muslims. The sexy you belong to in any of these religions directly affects their orthodoxy with regards to how closely they follow their holy book.

  As far as your contention bargaIning is not calling all Muslims evil . I have quoted him below.

  They hack non-believers to death in the street and their politicians pander to the extremists - who are only extreme by ourstandards, it's mainstream to them. Mainstream muslims in our countries are extreme, intolerant and a threat to society ... but we're meant to believe that these countries are somehow magically filled with kindly folk who want the best for everyone ... grow up and get a clue. Move there if you want to die, let the rest of us chose civilization

  Islam doesn't want to assimilate and it doesn't really want to get along (except as a temporary tactic to further it's goals of domination). The mandate of Islam is to conquer and subjugate. It's baked into the pie, it's the lettering that runs through the stick of rock, whatever analogy you want to use. It wants to be dominant and in control and if you think it doesn't and want to actively fight those giving the warnings then you'll feel it's boot on your neck one day.
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  tommy Robinson --update

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  Fitness Bandicoot in the post above mine who questioned the that statistics I presented Simon. Simon you also.equate all Muslims.as.Isis.members. You know.that that is patently false.

  On September 11th 2001 I was at St Vincent's Hospital in Manhattan. I was working with a devout Nurse who happened to be Muslim. She was.incredible . She rendered aid to the injured with compassion and skill. Her Husband who is also a Muslim( a chaplain for the NYPD) came and also comforted the injured. The both of them where visibly upset and crying at what occurred. The wife in the following days often stated how terrible the attacks where. Her Husband rendered aid down at ground zero to the firemen and policemen working.down there.

  Simon you will never convince me that all Muslims are evil. I have seen evidence to the contrary. I support the U.S. Constitution and it's first amendment protections. As I stated before I hate religious extremists of all kinds .

  Perhaps.I am holding you to top high a standard Simon. You are not American and.maybe you don't get the affection we Americans have for our constitutional guarantees. You can espouse your ethnocentric beliefs.all you want. Your refusal to accept facts does.not make your argument correct.
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  Basically you are comparing Apple's and oranges. The statistics you used where referring to international terrorism, the statistics I used referred to domestic terror. These are totally dog types of acts.

  Also your claim that Muslim terrorists are the only ones that follow their religious leader is patently false. There are many religious leaders who encourage terrorism who profess Christianity or other religions.

  I hate all religious extremists. Making excuses for one group while demonizing another is just burying one's head in the sand.
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  That's the rub. in the U.S. more.domestic terrorism is.perpetrated by supposed Christians than Muslims. I.of course.condemn both Muslim and Christian terrorism. I am just illustrating that religious extremists are all.dangerous. I condemn them all. I further wanted.to illustrate the danger of being ethnocentric.

  According to the FBI, 94 percent of terrorist attacks in the United States since 1980 were perpetrated by non-Muslims.
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  What about the violence perpetrated in the name of Christianity? I will give examples below.

  Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays.

  
  Timothy McVeigh, America’s most notorious domestic terrorist, was obsessed with the Seventh-Day Aventist splinter group known as the Branch Davidians, who resisted an ATF raid on their citadel at Mount Carmel in 1993. He travelled to Waco, Texas during the Waco Siege and heavily supported the religious extremists within it. Two years later, he detonated a fertilizer bomb at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing a hundred and sixty-eight people, including nineteen children, and wounded 648 others. This Christian specifically targeted innocent civilians and committed horrific acts of violence to make his political point heard – something Mr. Huckabee believes he should be incapable of, since he’s not a Muslim.
  
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  I find it interesting that some here will only accept that Muslims are the sole perpetrators of atrocities. They neglect the current atrocities being perpetrated in the name of Christianity. For example Warren Jeffs .

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040428/Warren-Jeffss-child-bride-I-cried-wedding-dress-soaked.html
  

  A woman who was forced into marriage at the age of 14 while under the control of paedophile Mormon polygamist Warren Jeffs's cult has recounted her harrowing ordeal.
  The woman, Elissa Wall, revealed how her own mother resorted to holding her daughter's hand at the altar in a bid to calm her down as she was forced to marry her 19-year-old cousin, whom she despised....
  When asked by Cooper whether anyone tried to stop the arranged marriage or help her, Elissa said: 'Before my marriage had been commanded, we had been taken away from [my father] and he didn't fight for us.
  'We were given to another man's children. My mother was resold to another man, and my mother didn't have the ability to say no
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  Is Enoch Powell the chap who uttered the following?

  "I see growing on the horizon the greater peril than Germany or Japan ever were... our terrible enemy, America...."

  I just love this guy. The U.S. comes to the aid of G.B. in it's darkest hour and he characterized the U.S. as a greater threat than the axis powers . Please note he said this while German bombs where falling on London, and Americans where shedding our blood in defense of our ally GB.

  Powell's suspicion of the anti-British Empire demeanor of the U.S.A. Government's foreign policy continued for the remainder of the war and into his subsequent post-war political career.
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  First of all I am not supporting Islamic law Simon. The question Bandecoot asked was the following...

  Can you tell me one muslim country that embraces multiculturalism?

  I gave an example of one. There are others also. ie. Albania for example.

  Do I agree with all the laws and practices the countries aforementioned govern themselves by? No never claimed that I did.

  Glad you brought up the question of multiculturalism. I again never said I preferred multiculturalism.You do realize there is an option besides multiculturalism and a homogenous culture. What is this third option you ask? It is the melting pot of cultures ( what the U.S. Has) I prefer this melting pot of cultures.

  What is the difference between a multicultural society and a society that is more of a melting pot? A multicultural society is one where each culture is distinct from each other they may influence each other but basically do not change. in A society that is a melting pot culturally all groups influence and change each other. The cultures have fundamentally changed and become more alike. Is use same language , participate as citizens, and accept the laws and morality of the blended society.

  I read a great analogy regarding the difference. It compared a multicultural society to a cheese plate made up of many different cheeses . Though each cheese course might influence the flavor of the next each cheese retains its own unique flavor.

  A society that is cultural melting pot was compared to a pot where all the cheeses are melted together. No longer are the taste , texture and look distinct from.one another. The flavor and appearance is all mixed together .

  Understand that America is God's Crucible, the great Melting-Pot where all the races of Europe are melting and re-forming! Here you stand, good folk, think I, when I see them at Ellis Island, here you stand in your fifty groups, your fifty languages, and histories, and your fifty blood hatreds and rivalries. But you won't be long like that, brothers, for these are the fires of God you've come to – these are fires of God. A fig for your feuds and vendettas! Germans and Frenchmen, Irishmen and Englishmen, Jews and Russians—into the Crucible with you all! God is making the American.
  -- The Melting Pot, 1908
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  Handiwork you asked if there where any Muslim countries that embrace multiculturalism.

  Here is one.

  Senegal, an East African country, even with a 95% Muslim population, adopted secularism and even had a Christian president. Muslims and Christians have been sharing good rapport in this country for long.
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  Basically you do realize that the governments of Islamic nations are considered ultra conservative. In fact many of your views eerily mirror their beliefs. For example

  1 Intolerance of other viewpoints

  2 Homogeneous cultural identity

  3 extreme conservative viewpoints.

  Those of us who are moderate champion a nonviolent resistance of extremes of both the right and the left.