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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

recovering

I think that The differences in IS among different races is not necessarily racist. I do think that there are many flaws in how a standard IQ test measures intelligence. It is just not a comprehensive picture of cognition. Furthermore the use of IQ as a means test as to which races should be allowed to immigrate is a form of eugenics.

Btw I am not saying that the concept of measuring IQ is a joke. What I am saying is that the standard IQ test probably falls short of measuring all factors involved in human intelligence. This is due to the variety of reasons I have discussed previously.

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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

recovering

Which person did I attack and attempt to discredit?I

The most recent article I posted has nothing to do with educational differences. The article has to do with how intelligence needs to be measured due to recent scientific advances in cognition.

As I stated before the are are differences in the scores. I am pointing out that the IQ test may not be a comprehensive test of intelligence due to a variety of factors.

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Race are we biased here is a fun quiz to self evaluate ourselves

by recovering in

http://www.playbuzz.com/sammccarty10/are-you-actually-racially-biased.

try it it is fun.

recovering

There is hope for you get Simon

😁

As I said test was all in good fun

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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

recovering

Not sure what you're arguing - that everything is OK to be a factor in scores apart from race even though studies show that it is?

Simon in view of the most current research I think that IQ tests in general fail to measure intelligence fully. There are many other problems with the test besides cultural bias. Research now points to 3 separate components of intelligence and concludes that no single test can measure all 3.

Here is a link to the full article if anyone cares to read

https://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20121218/iq-test-really-measure-intelligence#1

- Single tests that measure intelligence quotient, or IQ, may become a thing of the past.
A new study of more than 100,000 participants suggests that there may be at least three distinct components of intelligence. So you could not give a single, unified score for all of them.
Researchers' understanding of the complexities of the human brain has evolved, and so too has the notion of IQ, what it really means, and how it is most accurately captured.
“There are multiple types of intelligence,” says researcher Adam Hampshire, PhD. He is a psychologist at the Brain and Mind Institute Natural Sciences Centre in London, Ontario, Canada. “It is time to move on to using a more comprehensive set of tests that can measure separate scores for each type of intelligence.

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Race are we biased here is a fun quiz to self evaluate ourselves

by recovering in

http://www.playbuzz.com/sammccarty10/are-you-actually-racially-biased.

try it it is fun.

recovering

http://www.playbuzz.com/sammccarty10/are-you-actually-racially-biased

Try it it is fun

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Sarah Huckabee Sanders Kicked Out Of Restaurant For Supporting Trump

by minimus in

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i think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.

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recovering

This was wrong. It was a violation o f decency and hospitality. This is another example how the polarized politics in this country is degrading is all.

Btw. I think Maxine Waters comment was idiotic.

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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

recovering

No I fully accept that there are differences in the test results. I am presenting that the tests are culturally ethnocentric in their evaluation techniques and may not measure true intelligence.

Are you going to dispute that if I was raised in a poor uneducated family that spoke ebonics; educated in a poor school l system, that I might not understand the vocabulary used in a test? Are you going to say this will have no effect on my test scores?

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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

recovering

No it is not. I was pointing out how cultural bias and prior learning, can unintentionally effect the test results. I do not think the test authors where trying to write racist questions. I am merely presenting other possibilities of why there is a difference in the scores between cultures.

Here is how the American Psychological Association describes how cultural bias can effect testing.

IQ, or intelligence quotient, tests may be culturally biased because they measure cognitive functions through Western standards without regard to the differing values and beliefs other cultures around the world use to measure intelligence. In the United States, for instance, intelligence is measured in terms of ability to engage in enlightened debate and understand categories.
While Western perceptions of intelligence rest in logic and categorization, Europeans measure intelligence through citizens' ability to perform their social roles and perceive actions and behaviors that contradict social norms. In the Asian nations, intelligence levels correlate with respect; people who show high levels of empathy and respect for other individuals, in Eastern traditions, have the highest level of intelligence

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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

recovering

Wait a minute. Who said anything about it being racist. I in fact said it was unintentional. In was pointing out reasons why IQ tests may not be accurate in assessing intelligence of other cultures. Characterizing what I posted as liberal ( especially with out reading my sources) is not adding anything to the argument. Why must everything discussed here be made political?

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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

recovering

I am surprised that no one has pointed out how most IQ tests have built in bias . This is unintentional and is hard to negate. The tests often test not intellectual potential ,but what has already been learned. Take a look at what Prof. Martin Shapiro of Emory University, says.

According to other research, items which facilitate ranking and sorting are often items which, perhaps unintentionally, factor non-school learning and social background into the questions. Such items help create consistency in test results, but they often are based on the experiences of white middle-to-upper class children, who also typically have access to a stronger academic education.

For in depth information on this please read the following

http://fairtest.org/racial-bias-built-tests

http://www.theneuroethicsblog.com/2013/09/intelligence-testing-accurate-or.html