Posts by Kosonen

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The Great Tribulation?

by Blueblades in

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friends

besides talking about the great tribulation and using it to scare the rank and file that it is coming real soon, when was the last watchtower study that dealt with this subject in - depth?.

i think it was somewhere in the nineties.

anyone remember and know when the watchtower did an in - depth study on this teaching?.

I believe the great tribulation will come when Satan will be hurled to earth. It will be 3 and half years of very tuff times. Many anointed will be killed. The woman (a great croud with some anointed will be in the wilderness) Then shortly afterward the battle at Armageddon occures. But there are many great prophecies wich must be fullfilled before that. On my website you can find more detailed information about it. www.freewebs.com/scripturalanswers

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How do you now interpret the Lords Prayer?

by still wondering in

for those of you that have survived and come through the great tribulation of having been a member of the wts and still have a faith in god, how do you now interpret the lords prayer?.

just what do you think jesus meant when he said "thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"?.

Kosonen

I was tought since childhood that JWS do not pray Lord's prayer, because we are not allowed to repeat the same thing over and over again. They have said we should not anymore pray that His will take place in heaven because it has already taken place there. So infact they do not want you pray this prayer. They want everybody stop pray this prayer. What will be the result? If all stop pray this prayer, this prayer will not be answered, God's will will not take place, His Kingdom will not come, His name will not be sanctifyed.

I hope you and everybody will continue to pray Lord's Prayer and I am sure our Lord will appreciate that.

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What goals do JWS have now?

by Fisherman in

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friends

after being the org for years and years, one becomes accustomed to jw activties, weekly meetings, assbly, etc... it becomes a habit, a routine, and something that as a jw ,you just do.

but one time jws had "spiritual goals" full time sevice, positions in the org.

do jws still have such goals ?

Kosonen

It should be to become anointed. Seek first the kingdom. Unfortunately almost nobody understands that of the members.

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Are we living in the Last Days?

by Kosonen in

have you ever thought why apostle paul do not mention wars, pestilence, earthquackes, famine when he talks about the last days?

or why apostle peter only says, that in the last days ridiculers will come, asking were is his promised presence, and that from the beginning all remains exactly the same?

and why does peter not say: look at the wars, but says: all has not been the same, because a flood occured.

Kosonen

Have you ever thought why apostle Paul do not mention wars, pestilence, earthquackes, famine when he talks about the last days? Or why apostle Peter only says, that in the last days ridiculers will come, asking were is his promised presence, and that from the beginning all remains exactly the same? And why does Peter not say: Look at the wars, but says: All has not been the same, because a flood occured. (2Timothy 3:1-5, 2Peter 3:3,4,6)
Have you ever thought why Jesus talked about the sign of the conclusion and his presence, but not of the last days? (Matthew 24:3)

Therefore I believe the last days do not refer to the same time as the conclusion of the system of things and his presence. First will be the last days. Then in the end of the last days comes the conclusion of the system of things and in that time he will be present.

This conclusion will first have a period of 1260 days, and then a small unknown number of days. We can not know the exact number of days, otherwise we could get to know in beforhand the day of battle at Armageddon. Satan will be hurled down in the beginning of 1260 days. (Revelation chap 12, Daniel chap. 12. )
He will be in great anger because he knows he will have a short period of time. Some think this all happened 1914. But it has gone a long time. I do not know if we can call our days the last days, I do not hear people asking "where is His precence?", but we have been waiting for the new world since childhood, and it feels like a delay. That's exactly what Revelation 10:6 confirms about our time: A feeling of delay.

What do you think?

Prophecy: Peace and Security

by Kosonen in

we have surely heard that the old world can only get worse.

but let's pray for peace and security.

would jehovah god make the "old" world better by such prayers?

Kosonen

We have surely heard that the old world can only get worse. But let's pray for peace and security. Would Jehovah God make the "old" world better by such prayers? In His word in 1Timothy 2:1,2 apostel Paul urges all christians to pray inbehalf of kings and every person in high position so that we could live a calm life with full Godly devotion. In fact they are God's public servants (Romans13:6) What about Satan, when the Bible says that the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one? (1John 5:19) There is no contradiction. God has the highest authority anyway. And when we pray in behalf of the authorities God will make them take good decisions, and prevent Satan to influence on them to much. I prayed before the elections in Sweden last time, that God would give Sweden good ministers and we got a new government and they have maid nice reforms and are planing for more. So, I believe that christians will by their prayers, make the world better, even to the point that the inspired prophecy in 1Thessalonians 5:3 about "Peace and Security" finaly gets its fullfillment. Zechariah 11:10 also indicates that there will be a time of peace, it mentions a covenant that God have with all the peoples, before the great tribulation.

You can find more controversial ideas on my page www.freewebs.com/scripturalanswers

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Faithful and Discreet Slave

by whitman in

i am still catching up on witness related issues that have occured since i left the church.

i am wondering if there is an available log or register that provides the details of the faithful and discreet slave.

i am curious as to how many there are currently.

Kosonen

I heard at our meeting, when our circuit oversee visited our congregation us in Skärholmen, Sweden that last year there was in Sweden 31, but this year 37. He said, unfortunately the number of them increased, but the number of other witnesses decreased in the memorial attendance. I do not now if there has been a similar increase in other countries. But still our leaders are ridiculing and oppresing new members of the so called faithful and disceet slave-class. Jehovah God himself anoints new members with holy spirit to be faithful and discreet slaves and to give spiritual food. But often there arises a hard rivalry between them and Jehovah God gets disappointed with them and must search fore new candidates for his Kingdom. I'm happy that you are interested in spititual matters, please see my site and you will find more spiritual food. www.freewebs.com/scripturalanswers

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Aug 15-08 Study WT - More evil apostates!

by still_in74 in

well i just got the aug 15 study edition.

i flipped through it for about 10 seconds and found the word apostate.

big surprise.

Kosonen

While we uncover their errors, I believe Malachi 2:8,9 gets a fullfillment:

"But YOU men—YOU have turned aside from the way. YOU have caused many to stumble in the law. YOU have ruined the covenant of Le´vi," Jehovah of armies has said. "And I also, for my part, shall certainly make YOU to be despised and low to all the people, according as YOU were not keeping my ways...

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JW's clearly going 'beyond the things written' - examples

by jambon1 in

the one that got me recently is the matter of elders being removed if they encourage college education in the cong.

where in the scriptures?

any others that spring to mind?

Kosonen

Forbidding polygamy, according to the bible only elders and ministerial servants should have one wife. For the others it is optional.

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Is the resurrection heavenly or earthly?

by jwfacts in

i was looking for scriptures that discuss the heavenly resurrection, and did a google search on "heavenly resurrection".

to my surprise almost all links were discussing the beliefs of jehovah's witnesses.

apparently christians simply discuss the resurrection, specify it as a "heavenly resurrection" is very much watchtower terminology.

Kosonen

1Corinthians 15:50-52 tells even about that opportunity, that some will be transformed.

"in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" those will be transformed from being humans, to be angels.

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Is the resurrection heavenly or earthly?

by jwfacts in

i was looking for scriptures that discuss the heavenly resurrection, and did a google search on "heavenly resurrection".

to my surprise almost all links were discussing the beliefs of jehovah's witnesses.

apparently christians simply discuss the resurrection, specify it as a "heavenly resurrection" is very much watchtower terminology.

Kosonen

There will be a resurection both to earth and to heaven. In John 5:28 Jesus speaks about an earthy resurrection. JW say the heavenly resurection already started 1919 or little later. But that does not harmonize with Revelation 14:8,13, wich says that, first falls Babylon, and after that the ressurection begins. JW explain this by saying that Babylon did fall already once, and will fall once again. But in this chapter it is only once said that Babylon falls, and that chapter ends will God's final jugement to this world.

You can find more interesting "new truths" affirmed by the Bible, still rejected by GB on my site www.freewebs.com/scripturalanswers