Posts by Kosonen

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

Kosonen

There was no other good way of doing it. God created Adam and Eve with emotions and an intellect. But Adam and Eve decided to take the wrong way. They gave after to their desires. Instead they could have used their intellect to think if that was right or wise at least. It could have gone the other way. It was completely up to them. God did not fail in creating them such.

Some people just want to please God and others don't. Twins also develop different personalities. Why I don't know. It is just like that.

God said let us create man in our image. So Adam was as free as God to think and decide and he was created with emotions just as God has emotions. It was a great priviledge to be created according to God image, but it came with a risk being able to chose what to do. Either good or bad things.

But let's concentrate on the positive. We are living in the last days and soon every thing will be good. If we have difficulties to endure until it gets better, let's pray God's help to endure, even to be able to endure with joy!

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

Kosonen

It is like setting up a new enterprise. In the beginning things usually don't go as planned. But you work it out. You hire people but some make you disappointed. But you sort it out, but not in one day. And the final result is a joy for all who endured.

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The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

by smiddy3 in

i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

Kosonen

No problem at all. If you read the New Testament from cover to cover you will see that they are in agreement.

And if God is Love? Yes, absolutely. There was no other good way to fix the mankind than let all that has happened unfold. Just think about what happened in the preflood world when people could live 900 years. Instead of becoming nicer they got worse. Only 8 persons believed God. But look now when people's life span is about 70 or 80 years, so many more believe God.

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New scrolls

by The Searcher in

in 1985 a new phrase was added to our vocabulary, "new scrolls", complete with an explanation as to how they will benefit those who inhabit the new world.

the following five references are the only quotations of this new 'teaching', but incredibly, these two words have been indelibly stamped on most people's minds by repetition from platform speakers, and in general conversation.. w85 6/15 p. 18 par.

21 "during this thousand-year judgment period, jehovah evidently will give additional instructions, unknown to us at present, as new "scrolls" are opened.

Kosonen

The Searcher,

I am with you. First Revelation 20:5 says: The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended.

And then as you pointed out the order of events is verse 10: Satan is hurled into the lake of fire. And then verses 11-15 tell what happens next: The dead are judged individually and each of them is said to stand before the throne and each then receives a judgement according to their previous deeds.

This is very logic.

During the 1000 years occurs no resurrection. Instead the population increases by childbearing. Jesus also told that the resurrected will not marry. So it would be strange if some can marry and some can not.

Also at the end of the 1000 years Satan will be able to get a lot of followers. And they will after that be wiped out. So who would fill that space that will be left after them? Will people again reproduce, and how would these new people be tested?

No, instead the Bible says that after those rebels are wiped out, after the end of the 1000 years, the resureection of the worthy of life will happen. So those will fill the void that will be left by the rebels who followed Satan.

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Due to Covid-19 a coming Global Government, the Beast of Revelation 13

by Kosonen in

just recently there have been calls from heavyweight statesmen to set up a new global authority to tackle the covid-19 pandemic and the economic crisis it creates.they are henry kissinger, former uk primeministers gordon brown and tony blair.former prime minister of uk, tony blair is fervently advising governments around the world how to get the corona virus under control and how to restart the economy after the lockdown.

he is running tony blair institute for global changeon its webpage we can learn about his work with this:https://institute.global/tony-blair/mes ... t-covid-19"create one crisis-management centre.

governments should have already repositioned themselves towards crisis management.

Kosonen

JoenB75, thanks for your reply. I understand that someone could get that impression. But Jesus used double speaking. He spoke simultaneously about the end of the Jewish system and the end of the whole system of things.

Because somethings in Jesus' prophecy about the end did not get their fulfilment in year 70 CE.

One of the things was that first the good news about Jesus had to be preached in all the nations. Not until now has the knowledge about Jesus reached everywhere thanks to the internet.

And after the conclusion of the system of things Jesus would rule the world, and all the wickedness would be eliminated. That did not happen in the first century. So we are still waiting that.

But Revelation chapters 8 to 13 contain prophecies that have occured since 2010. And all the talks about the implantable RFID. Many expect that to become the mark of the beast, that will be used to buy or sell. And without it it will be impossible to buy or sell. Such developments seem to be about the prophecied mark of the beast.

So, many people see that Revelation has prophecies that are about our time.

Don't you agree?

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Due to Covid-19 a coming Global Government, the Beast of Revelation 13

by Kosonen in

just recently there have been calls from heavyweight statesmen to set up a new global authority to tackle the covid-19 pandemic and the economic crisis it creates.they are henry kissinger, former uk primeministers gordon brown and tony blair.former prime minister of uk, tony blair is fervently advising governments around the world how to get the corona virus under control and how to restart the economy after the lockdown.

he is running tony blair institute for global changeon its webpage we can learn about his work with this:https://institute.global/tony-blair/mes ... t-covid-19"create one crisis-management centre.

governments should have already repositioned themselves towards crisis management.

Kosonen

JoenB75, why can it not be about our time?

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Due to Covid-19 a coming Global Government, the Beast of Revelation 13

by Kosonen in

just recently there have been calls from heavyweight statesmen to set up a new global authority to tackle the covid-19 pandemic and the economic crisis it creates.they are henry kissinger, former uk primeministers gordon brown and tony blair.former prime minister of uk, tony blair is fervently advising governments around the world how to get the corona virus under control and how to restart the economy after the lockdown.

he is running tony blair institute for global changeon its webpage we can learn about his work with this:https://institute.global/tony-blair/mes ... t-covid-19"create one crisis-management centre.

governments should have already repositioned themselves towards crisis management.

Kosonen

Flinkenstein, soon, maybe within months, it depends how fast they manage to put in place this new global economic and medical authority, the foretold beast, then the persecution of Jehovah's witnesses will start very directly in the USA and spread to all countries.

I trust the prediction in Revelation 13. That applies to the time we are entering now.

I am not fully sure what the deadly wound to one of the seven heads of the beast simbolized. Maybe it represented Boris Johnson the UK prime minister who was near death, from Covid-19? But now he has recovered.

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Due to Covid-19 a coming Global Government, the Beast of Revelation 13

by Kosonen in

just recently there have been calls from heavyweight statesmen to set up a new global authority to tackle the covid-19 pandemic and the economic crisis it creates.they are henry kissinger, former uk primeministers gordon brown and tony blair.former prime minister of uk, tony blair is fervently advising governments around the world how to get the corona virus under control and how to restart the economy after the lockdown.

he is running tony blair institute for global changeon its webpage we can learn about his work with this:https://institute.global/tony-blair/mes ... t-covid-19"create one crisis-management centre.

governments should have already repositioned themselves towards crisis management.

Kosonen

Finkenstein, Revelation 13 tells what will follow. First of all, people in general will feel good about the new global authority. The Bible says:

3...and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration. 4 And they worshipped the dragon because it gave the authority to the wild beast, and they worshipped the wild beast with the words: “Who is like the wild beast, and who can do battle with it?”

And after that Revelation 13:6,7 predicts that this global authority will start a war against the holy ones. That means trouble for believers in the true God.

6 And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God to blaspheme his name and his dwelling place, even those residing in heaven. 7 It was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.

But there is hope for those who manage to flee to a safe place before it is too late, like the christians that fled Jerusalem in year 66 CE right after the Roman armies retreated.

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Due to Covid-19 a coming Global Government, the Beast of Revelation 13

by Kosonen in

just recently there have been calls from heavyweight statesmen to set up a new global authority to tackle the covid-19 pandemic and the economic crisis it creates.they are henry kissinger, former uk primeministers gordon brown and tony blair.former prime minister of uk, tony blair is fervently advising governments around the world how to get the corona virus under control and how to restart the economy after the lockdown.

he is running tony blair institute for global changeon its webpage we can learn about his work with this:https://institute.global/tony-blair/mes ... t-covid-19"create one crisis-management centre.

governments should have already repositioned themselves towards crisis management.

Kosonen

mikeflood, interesting to hear the reaction of your PIMI contact. I have essentially no contact with the brothers. I was unjustly disfellowshipped because of running a head of the organization. But I feel like I want to help them get saved from the coming beast and the mark of the beast.

Interesting that your PIMI contact thinks this is the begining of the fall of Babylon the Great.

Maybe that is good, at least that could wake them up. But a correct understanding about Babylon the Great is something completely different. Because Babylon the Great does not represent religions in general. But something much more powerful and influencial.

Interesting that they are proposing a "Corona virus passport". That could take the form of a RFID chip inserted in the right hand. And the authorities could bar anyone without it to enter a shop to buy anything, because you would only get it only if you are proven not to be a health risk.

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Due to Covid-19 a coming Global Government, the Beast of Revelation 13

by Kosonen in

just recently there have been calls from heavyweight statesmen to set up a new global authority to tackle the covid-19 pandemic and the economic crisis it creates.they are henry kissinger, former uk primeministers gordon brown and tony blair.former prime minister of uk, tony blair is fervently advising governments around the world how to get the corona virus under control and how to restart the economy after the lockdown.

he is running tony blair institute for global changeon its webpage we can learn about his work with this:https://institute.global/tony-blair/mes ... t-covid-19"create one crisis-management centre.

governments should have already repositioned themselves towards crisis management.

Kosonen

Hairtrigger, a good idea, thanks. I just sent a letter with similar content two days ago. And I urged them to organize a flight similar as the christians undertook from Jerusalem 66CE.