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  Help add to the list of things that convinced you Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs are flawed, that Governing Body are hypercritical, and deceiving >>>

  by Butterflyleia85 in

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  sources to your claim will help with proof.... thanks.

  these are a few i looked up and is just a rough note taking list so i didn't edit it and it's just done by basic looking through alot of articles and posts i've see:.

  malawi-mexico contradiction... when a lot of the jehovah's witnesses were tortured and killed because the governing body forbade them to buy a card whereas the mexicans were allowed too.the real reason for the "donation arrangement"... property the wts owns in brooklyn heights alone would generate almost $10,000,000 (yes, ten million) in tax money each year for the city of new york-- that is if they had to pay taxes on it.

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  I don't discard all their teachings, but sadly they have stagnated in their increasing knowledge of the truth. And that's not strange either, because the wt-organization expells everyone who does his own personal bible study if he finds that a wt- teaching is wrong and tells about it in the congregation. Elders do even not defend their beliefs if you can show them from the bible that they are wrong. They just order you not to talk about it or disfellowship you.

  So how they treat sincere brothers and sisters who have bible based different understanding of the sciptures is totally wrong and very similar to other religions and to the pharisees and scribes in the days of Jesus.

  I grow up in a jw family and was baptized, and because of being injustly treated for about 20 years in different occasions, I started to realize more and more that not every thing is ok. Gradually I experienced that ministerial servants, then elders, then CO, and then finally the governing body are not that good as they pretend to be.

  The first teaching that I doubted about was when the anointed would be ressurected to heaven. They teach that it happened in about year 1918. But according to the Bible the anointed will be ressurected and there after the remaining anointed will be changed from being humans to become spirit creatures. That is very clearly stated in the Bible. So if the dead anointed would have ressurected in 1918, then the living anointed should have been cought to heaven. But that has not happen until now. In addition wt does not either believe until now that the last anointed will be changed from human body to spirit body.

  So, that made me think. If wt-org is so blind to such clear bible verses, then how is it with the rest of their knowledge? Even the name Jehovah's wittnesses is not the most appropriate for Jesus' dicsiples. The first christians did not call themselves Jehovah's witnesses. Instead Jesus wanted his disciples to be his witnesses. So, it would been better to be called Jesus' witnesses. But that is not either necessary. It is enough to be called christian and belonging to the Way, as did the first centry disciples of Jesus.

  I counted that about 30-40 teachings and practices of the jw-org are not right, according to my personal bible research. But sadly all other churches are the same or worse.

  So, if you want to know the truth, study the bible yourself, with the guidance of the holy spirit and you will be lead into all the truth. And even more important is that you live according to God's commands.
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  The Visual Bible on youtube

  by Kosonen in

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  i recently found on youtube a lot of films on bible books.

  i watched a film based on the bible book of john and just finished watching the visual bible - the book of acts.. i recommend everybody here to watch these films.

  my faith was really strengthened by hearing the word of god and seeing it.

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  I recently found on youtube a lot of films on bible books. I watched a film based on the bible book of John and just finished watching The Visual Bible - The Book of Acts.

  I recommend everybody here to watch these films. My faith was really strengthened by hearing the word of God and seeing it. How wonderful that today you can see as a film the bible stories thanks to morden technology!!!
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  4/15 WT - WTS Pridefully says they can " Guide " JW's past "Armageddon "

  by flipper in

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  this thread is for everybody and everybody is welcome to comment on it .

  however i'm going to direct my thoughts and comments in this initial post to lurking jehovah's witnesses who may read on this board and may be sitting on the fence pondering on whether to stay in the jehovah's witnesses organization.

  also to newer members who may have joined the board.. in this latest 4/15 wt in the article , " jehovah knows how to deliver his people " it conveys the thought that only the wt society ( through god's help ) will be guiding any jw's through the alleged " armageddon " considered god's war against the wicked.

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  Infact how could the governing body guide their members through Armageddon, when all the saints are raptured before the end?
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  From the days of John the Baptist the Heavenly Kingdom is the Goal!

  by Kosonen in

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  when studying with the jw:s every body learns that the smalest in god's kingdom is greater than john the baptist.

  that we have learned means that john the baptist will not go to heaven.

  and that every servant of jehovah prior to john the baptist will neither go to heaven.

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  When studying with the JW:s every body learns that the smalest in God's Kingdom is greater than John the baptist. That we have learned means that John the baptist will not go to heaven. And that every servant of Jehovah prior to John the baptist will neither go to heaven. But instead they will have the wonderful reward of everlasting life here on earth.

  But while studying about this surely no JW has pointed out the real message in this context. Look here what Jesus says:

  Truly I say to YOU people, Among those born of women there has not been raised up a greater than John the Baptist; but a person that is a lesser one in the kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. But from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it. Mathew 11:11,12

  Also in Luke 16:16 Jesus says: “The Law and the Prophets were until John. From then on the kingdom of God is being declared as good news, and every sort of person is pressing forward toward it.

  So, do you want to press forward toward the Kingdom of God, the heavenly kingdom, toward the opportunity which was opened only after John the Baptist? I think every JW has thought about the possibility to become one of the 144000. But of course it seems almost impossible, because the number is so small. But you should not feel discouraged.

  Jesus told a parallell to tell how hard it is for Jehovah God to fill all the 144000 seats in his kingdom. Luke 14:15-24:

  On hearing these things a certain one of the fellow guests said to him: “Happy is he who eats bread in the kingdom of God.” Jesus said to him: “A certain man was spreading a grand evening meal, and he invited many. And he sent his slave out at the hour of the evening meal to say to the invited ones, ‘Come, because things are now ready.’ But they all in common started to beg off. The first said to him, ‘I bought a field and need to go out and see it; I ask you, Have me excused.’ And another said, ‘I bought five yoke of cattle and am going to examine them; I ask you, Have me excused.’ Still another said, ‘I just married a wife and for this reason I cannot come.’ So the slave came up and reported these things to his master. Then the householder became wrathful and said to his slave, ‘Go out quickly into the broad ways and the lanes of the city, and bring in here the poor and crippled and blind and lame.’ In time the slave said, ‘Master, what you ordered has been done, and yet there is room.’ And the master said to the slave, ‘Go out into the roads and the fenced-in places, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. For I say to YOU people, None of those men that were invited shall have a taste of my evening meal.’”
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  Repent because God's Kingdom has drawn close!

  by Kosonen in

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  here on this forum there are so many sinners, many here are doing things that will bring god's wrath upon themselves.

  consider yourself if you in some aspect fit the description in romans 1:28-32:.

  and just as they did not approve of holding god in accurate knowledge, god gave them up to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting, filled as they were with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malicious disposition, being whisperers, backbiters, haters of god, insolent, haughty, self-assuming, inventors of injurious things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, false to agreements, having no natural affection, merciless.

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  Dold Agenda,

  Yes I am Finnish but my parents moved to Sweden when I was young. You too Finnish from Sweden?

  Qcmbr,

  I am serious.
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  Repent because God's Kingdom has drawn close!

  by Kosonen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here on this forum there are so many sinners, many here are doing things that will bring god's wrath upon themselves.

  consider yourself if you in some aspect fit the description in romans 1:28-32:.

  and just as they did not approve of holding god in accurate knowledge, god gave them up to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting, filled as they were with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malicious disposition, being whisperers, backbiters, haters of god, insolent, haughty, self-assuming, inventors of injurious things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, false to agreements, having no natural affection, merciless.

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  Here on this forum there are so many sinners, many here are doing things that will bring God's wrath upon themselves. Consider yourself if you in some aspect fit the description in Romans 1:28-32:

  And just as they did not approve of holding God in accurate knowledge, God gave them up to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting, filled as they were with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malicious disposition, being whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, insolent, haughty, self-assuming, inventors of injurious things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, false to agreements, having no natural affection, merciless. Although these know full well the righteous decree of God, that those practicing such things are deserving of death, they not only keep on doing them but also consent with those practicing them.

  Here on this forum I find a lot of real apostates. Haters of God Jehovah, haters of evidence in favor for the Bible, sinners in common sense, fornicators, drunkards, smokers defiling their lungs and body with ugly smell.

  So a word of God for you: Repent, because God's kingdom has drawn close!
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  If You Were God How Would You Prove You Existed

  by Pig in

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  i ask this because obviously everyone has different criteria, hence why we have muslims who think quran is the more than enough proof, christians who think the bible is perfect proof and atheists who believe that nothing yet has been proof enough of gods existence.. living with humans we all must have a good idea of human nature (god should certainly know) so what would you provide as proof if you were god to convince the masses of your existence?.

  if you were a christian would your proof surpass that contained in the bible, would you provide less proof?.

  if you are atheist would you provide a mathematical equation or a series of supernatural events that fulfill prophecies every 100 years?.

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  I would not prove at all. I would just one day when the mankind would have come into a certain point, just kill off the bad people.
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  ANYONE FROM SWEDEN?

  by JustHuman14 in

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  i would like to ask if there are any forum members from sweden?

  i'm looking for an old friend and perhaps you might give some clues.. thanks guys!!

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  the global Noahic flood is truth

  by undercover in

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  that's not my assertion... that quote belongs to "godrulz" who said it on a thread introducing a newbie.

  instead of hijacking that one, i thought i'd repeat here.. now, mr. godrulz... are you prepared to back that statement up with some proof?.

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  I think many of you who mock the ark, just do not want to face God. But your mocking God and his word won't make it easier for you in the future to face God.
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  the global Noahic flood is truth

  by undercover in

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  that's not my assertion... that quote belongs to "godrulz" who said it on a thread introducing a newbie.

  instead of hijacking that one, i thought i'd repeat here.. now, mr. godrulz... are you prepared to back that statement up with some proof?.

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  Here is still an other link vith evidence:

  http://www.youtube.com/sygnate#p/u/5/3PSZNYdfawQ