God bless you LouBelle. The veil for women is under the law of Christ also, not just the law of Moses. 2000 years ago, Apostle Paul preached to the Corinth and told them that women should have their head cover when they worship and pray to God. We have to follow Jesus and the Apostles examples to show God we love Him.
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Veil
by brofromzion inmatt.
' the man was speechless.
then the king told the attendants, 'tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'..."?
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Veil
by brofromzion inmatt.
' the man was speechless.
then the king told the attendants, 'tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'..."?
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Matt. 22:1-14 ?..."The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son...But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. 'Friend,' he asked, 'how did you get in here without wedding clothes?' The man was speechless. Then the king told the attendants, 'Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'..."?
In the above words, spoken by Jesus, it is clear that there is a regulation for God's people to wear wedding clothes when they enter the heavenly wedding banquet. It is a promise we make with God.
Likewise, when we worship God, there are certain regulations. Worship services should be held according to the teachings of God. Firstly, we should have a godly mind when worshiping God, and, secondly, women should wear veils.
By wearing veils, they can worship God with a godly mind. Men do not cover their heads during worship services.
God gave us this veil regulation as a sign representing God's authority. Even though this regulation seems minor, it cannot be neglected. None of God's commands were instituted meaninglessly. All of the regulations were given to God's people because they are necessary for our salvation and allow us to enter the kingdom of God.
Hos. 8:12 ?"I wrote for them the many things of my law, but they regarded them as something alien."?
If we regard God's regulations as trivial, God will regard us as trivial.Christ commanded that during worship service men should not cover their heads, but women ought to cover their heads.
1 Cor. 11:1-6 ?Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ....?
The Apostle Paul emphasized that his teachings were from Christ, not from his own personal opinions.
1 Cor. 11:4-5 ?Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved.?
Through Christ's teaching, we discover that men ought not to cover their heads, but that women should cover their heads while worshiping God.
During the time of Moses, the head of a woman stood for the man. Thus, it was regarded as very shameful if a woman uncovered her head in front of a man or even loosened her hair. In fact, when a Jewish man chose to marry a Gentile captive, he would shave the woman's head to wash away the shame of her prior ignorance of God.
The words, "It is just as though her head were shaved," refer to this very shameful occurrence.Even through the Creation, we can see that men ought not to cover their heads, but that women should cover their heads while in the presence of God.
1 Cor. 11:7-9 ?A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man....?
God created Eve as Adam's helper. In the work of preaching the new covenant, too, man is the head and woman is the helper; however, men must not arrogantly ignore their female counterparts. As it is written:
1 Cor. 11:11-12 ?In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God.?
Could the gospel work be completed by only men? Or, if only women worked for the gospel, could it be fulfilled? Men and women should help each other in the gospel work. Both should remain devoted to their missions and faithful to the titles and positions given to them by God.Our intrinsic nature, given to us by God, teaches us that men should not cover their heads, but that women should.
1 Cor. 11:13-15 ?Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?...?
This verse implies that it is not proper for a woman to worship God with her head uncovered. We unconsciously know that if a man has long hair he looks ugly, and it can even become his disgrace. God gave men "the nature" not to cover their heads.
"But that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering."Contrary to man, if a woman has short hair, she is not seen as beautiful. When a woman has long hair that covers her head, she looks beautiful, and it becomes her glory. This is only because God gave women the "nature" to feel beautiful when their heads are covered with long hair.
Through the "nature of things," God taught us that a man should not cover his head, but that a woman should cover her head. Verse 15—"long hair is given to her as a covering"—means that God uses a woman's long hair to subconsciously teach her that it is proper for her to cover her head.
As the Apostles preached the gospel, Christ's teachings spread to various Mediterranean regions. Initially, the veil regulation was obeyed without rejection. As people began to advocate gender equality, however, a question was raised: "Is there any reason for women to wear veils when men do not?" In the region of Corinth, women became repulsed at the thought of the veil regulation. In an effort to change their incorrect thinking, the Apostle Paul emphasized that women ought to cover their heads, explaining the deeper significance of this regulation.Some versions of the Bible have section titles which summarize the contents of the chapter which follows. Let's look at some of the section titles used for 1 Corinthians chapter 11.
ESV (English Standard Version) - Head Coverings
TEV (Today's English Version) - Covering the Head in Worship
These section titles display the Apostle Paul's true purpose in writing this chapter. 1 Corinthians 11 lists all of the reasons why women have to cover their heads during worship. No commandment of God is trivial. All of the commandments are given to us for our salvation and heavenly blessings. Women should cover their heads when they worship or pray so that they may give glory to God.
The Bible says,"Arrogance is like the evil of idolatry."In some churches, the male priests cover their heads; however, this teaching is not from the Bible. A long time ago, when Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments, the Israelites could not look directly at Moses' face because he was so radiant after meeting God. The people were afraid to come near him, so he put a veil over his face. When he went to speak with God, however, he took it off (Ex. 34:29-35). From then on, the Israelites covered their faces with shrouds when they read the Old Testament.
Just as Moses took off the shroud when he came before God, we are to meet God [Christ] without a shroud. In this instance, the shroud does not imply veils that cover the "heads" of women, but it signifies the shroud that covered the people's "faces" when they read the Old Testament.
Through 1 Corinthians chapter 11, we can understand that women ought to cover their heads during times of worship and that men ought not to cover their heads. Through 2 Corinthians chapter 3, we can understand that now, regardless of gender, we need to take away the shroud which has covered our faces and has not allowed our eyes to clearly see the truth of the Bible. God bless you all. -
God's Image - Male and Female?
by brofromzion inthe bible is the word of god that reveals prophecies and mysteries that god wants us to see.
throughout the bible, it's been testified that god has a "male and female image".
let's confirm it through the bible.. elohim god revealed in the book of genesis.
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The Bible is the Word of God that reveals prophecies and mysteries that God wants us to see. Throughout the Bible, it's been testified that God has a "male and female image". Let's confirm it through the Bible.
Elohim God revealed in the book of Genesis Let us confirm that there is both a male and a female image of God, through the book of Genesis.
Gen. 1:26-27 ?Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness,"…So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.?
Both males and females were created in the image of God, and thus it is clear that God has two images: a male image and a female image. When God said, "Let us make man in our image," God used the word "us"-a plural term-instead of using "me." We come to understand that not one God, but two Gods-a Father and a Mother-worked together during the Creation. Such plural terms are used to describe God in Genesis chapter 11, also.
Gen. 11:1-7 ?…The LORD said…"Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."?
This verse, too, makes reference to Elohim God, the same God who created male and female (in Genesis chapter 1), saying, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness." In Genesis chapter 11, God was responding to the arrogance of the people, who had collectively built the tower of Babel. Through this situation, God testifies that there exists a God the Mother as well as a God the Father by saying, "Let us go down…"
Elohim God revealed in the book of Isaiah We can confirm the existence of Elohim God through the book of Isaiah as well.
Isa. 6:8 ?Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"?
When God was searching for a man to preach His words, God said, "Who will go for us?" instead of saying, "Who will go for me?" This reveals that not only the Father was working, but that there was a Mother who was working as well.
Elohim God revealed in the book of Jeremiah In the book of Jeremiah we can also find references to Elohim God.
Jer. 31:22 ?…The LORD will create a new thing on earth a woman will surround a man.?
God said that He would create a new thing: a woman would surround a man. Spiritually, this verse has a very profound meaning. The woman, Eve, had once been inside the man. If God had not made the woman with the ribs He had taken out of the man, how could the woman have been able to surround the man? The new thing, that God said He would bring to the earth, would be the revealing of Mother, who has been within God the Father since the beginning. The new thing would be created at the time God established the new covenant.
Jer. 31:31-34 ?"The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah…"I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest."?
In the Hebrew Bible, the word "God" is actually written as "Elohim". "I will be their God [Elohim]." "Elohim" is the plural form of the word "Eloah," meaning a singular God. Therefore, "Elohim" means "Gods," plural. Once we can understand the concept of Elohim God through the new covenant, we no longer need men to teach us to know God, because we will all know God, from the least of us to the greatest. In the truth of the new covenant, we can only become the children of God when we have God the Father and God the Mother, our Elohim God.
When Elohim God created male and female, They said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness." When Elohim God punished the evil acts of God's people, They said, "Let us go down." When the Gods called to Isaiah, They said, "Who will go for us?" Throughout the Bible, God has existed as the male God and the female God: Elohim.Elohim will appear in Their own time God promised that He would appear according to His own timing (1 Tim. 6:15). Let us confirm what form He will appear in.
Rev. 22:17 ?The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.?
For our salvation, God always referred to Himself as "us," and then Elohim God appeared-as the Holy Spirit and the Bride-to give us the water of life. In the first book of Timothy, it is written that God alone is immortal and lives in unapproachable light (1 Tim. 6:16). Thus, only the Spirit and the Bride are immortal and only They have life. Nevertheless, some people boast that they, also, have the power to give life. The people who make such assumptions are greatly mistaken. The Bible says that no one can have life until he or she eats the flesh of the Son of Man and drinks His blood (John 6:53), and Jesus said, "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead" (Matt. 8:22). Mere human beings, such as ourselves, cannot say that we are alive. God bless you all. -
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Secret of Forgiveness of Sins
by brofromzion inis god a loving god?
does he enjoy seeing his children in pain?
sorrow?
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Wow you guys must not have seen it clearly. It's what the Bible testifies, not an opinion in the will of men. I pity you guys.
Luke 8:9-10
9His disciples asked him what this parable meant. 10He said, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that,
” ‘though seeing, they may not see;
though hearing, they may not understand.Isnt it obvious all of you dont know what youre saying??? CHRIST said it best
John 10:26-28
26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.So who do they belong to?
John 8:41-47
42Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”Hence verse 47
47He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”Isaiah 29:10-12
10 The LORD has brought over you a deep sleep:
He has sealed your eyes (the prophets);
he has covered your heads (the seers).11 For you this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a scroll. And if you give the scroll to someone who can read, and say to him, “Read this, please,” he will answer, “I can’t; it is sealed.” 12 Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, “Read this, please,” he will answer, “I don’t know how to read.”
You cant understand because the words have been sealed, only those that have been given the honor to see are his sheep!
What did John say?
Revelations 5:3-5
3But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. 4I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”Who is the Root of David????
Revelations 22: 16
16?I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”Because the Root of David came to unseal it. Only the Root of David can open up the scrolls. But as of now, I can clearly see that you guys don't even know what really the Bible testifies because even the simplest verse on it, you guys can't see. I really pity you guys.
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Secret of Forgiveness of Sins
by brofromzion inis god a loving god?
does he enjoy seeing his children in pain?
sorrow?
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Is God a loving God? Does He enjoy seeing His children in pain? sorrow? Then why would He put us in Earth that is full of pain, sorrow, sickness. Let's study the Bible and find out why are we here on Earth. First, let's find out what how God created the first man, Adam:
Genesis 2:7 [Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.]
So man is compose of two elements: dust which is the flesh and breathe of life which is out spirit or soul. Then what happens when a man dies:
Ecclesiastes 12:7 [then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.]
Return? So our dust returns to the Earth as it was and our spirit returns to God? How can we return to a place where we have never been before? Like for example, if I tell you to return to my home and you have never been there, how can you? Then we must have been in Heaven with God even before all men were created in Earth. Let's find out through the Bible if we have life even before the world were created. Here, King Solomon testifies about our existence even before world were created by God:
Proverbs 8:22-26 ["The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works before his deeds of old; I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. When there were no oceans, as given birth, when there were no springs abounding with water; before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was given birth, before he made the earth or its fields or any of the dust of the world.]
Proverbs 8:30 [Then I was the craftsman at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence.]
Wow. Clearly King Solomon was a craftsman at God's side before the world began, before God made the Earth or any dust of the world. Then now let's see another example of our existence before the world began when God spoke to Job:
Job 38:1-4 [Then the LORD answered Job out of the storm. He said: "Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge? Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me. "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.]
Job 38:21 [Surely you know, for you were already born! You have lived so many years!]
Wow. Another proof of our existence before the world began that God revealed to Job that he was already born and have lived so many years before God laid the Earth's foundation. King Solomon and Job are also men like us, composed of dust(flesh) and breathe of life(spirit or soul). So now, why are we all men here on Earth that's full of sorrow, pain and suffering when we all rejoice in God's presence with Him? Let's see what the Bible reveals to us what God did to King of Tyre:
Ezekiel 28:12-17 ["Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: " 'You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings.]
King of Tyre, a guardian cherub, was thrown to the Earth by God because he sinned? Now it's clear that all of us are here on Earth because of sin. Now what is the punishment of sin:
Romans 6:23 [For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.]
Romans 5:12 [Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned.]
Death is the punishment of sin and we all sinned since we are all on Earth, it also says that God's gift is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord:
Ephesians 1:7 [In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace.]
Now through Jesus blood, our sins can be forgiven. Did Jesus gave us a way to receive it?
Luke 22:7-8 [Then came the day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, "Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover."]
Luke 22:19-20 [And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me." In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.]
John 6:53 [Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.]
There you go. The Passover lamb, Jesus body and blood gives eternal life. But can we celebrate it whenever we want or look at the Bible on when to celebrate it? Remember, it is also celebrated on the first month on the fourteenth day, just as celebrated in the age of the Father, Jehovah:
Matthew 5:17 ["Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.]
Jesus fulfilll the laws of the Prophets, not to abolished them. Passover lamb in the Old Testament is just the shadow of Jesus suffering and bearing our sins so that we may have eternal life and escape death and disaster. God is so merciful and has always given us a chance to escape from death and disasters and return to Him in Heaven by celebrating the Passover just as Jesus and His Apostles celebrated it. God bless you. -
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God's Sabbath Day - Saturday or Sunday?
by brofromzion ingod bless you.
so you worship god on sunday?
didn't god commanded us to keep the sabbath day?
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Mary, if your saying that you can worship God whenever you want then that's absolutely wrong. If you guys saying that you guys keep that Sabbath Day and also keep the 1st - 6th day or worship, are you guys really following God's commandments?
The words of God are absolute, and there can not be any exceptions to the absoluteness. If you take exceptions to God’s word, it is because you do not regard His words as absolute. When you carry them out absolutely, the absolute results will follow. God said, “Do not add and subtract” (Deut. 4:2), “Do not add and take away” (Rev. 22:18). And God gave a warning: If anyone adds anything to His words, He will add to him the plagues described in the Bible, and if anyone takes away from them, He will take away from him his share in the tree of life (eternal life). These words show well how absolute the word of God is and how authentic result it accompanies.
We can see how absolute God’s word is and what blessing it brings from Abraham’s case. God granted Isaac as an heir to Abraham who was 100 years old. To him, Isaac was absolute being and the most precious treasure among all his possessions. God, however, commanded Abraham to sacrifice Isaac as an offering whom he cherished and loved as much as his life, in order to test whether or not he loved God absolutely. Then Abraham made up his mind to obey God’s command as more absolute than his possession. Those who stuck only to common sense might grumble against God and His disposal, saying “God! Why did You give me Isaac? Have I ever asked for a son? You gave me a son unilaterally, but now You intend to take him away from me. Why do You give me an agony shattering a ray of hope of old man? Abraham could have grumbled against God like that. But he obeyed God’s will, with the faith that life, death, fortune, and misfortune of men depend upon God. So he determined to sacrifice Isaac as an offering. When he was about to kill Isaac, he heard the merciful voice of God, “Do not lay a hand on the boy.” Such faithful obedience won him the praise of the people, that he was called “the father of faith”.
Through the works of Noah, we can also find out what the result of the absolute faith is. In the days that not a drop of rain fell, God commanded Noah to make an ark (wooden ship) on the top of the mountain. In fact, it was beyond common sense; as for scale, the ark was to be 137 meters long, 23 meters wide, 14 meters high, and it was almost impossible to build such a tremendous ship with the techniques of those days. Of course, it can be construct easily with modern techniques including timbers and various kinds of building materials. However, it must have been difficult to build the ark with those day’s technique, because it required high techniques and expenses with which today’s shuttle can be made. Even under those circumstances, Noah never complained of God and began to construct the ark, believing that God would help him. It is estimated that it took as long as 40 years at least or even 100 years to make the ark. From this, we can guess it took a lot of perseverance for Noah to do the work. As the result of obeying the absolute words of God without adding or subtracting, only Noah and his family were saved when all the people were destroyed by the flood. Thus, the result of regarding the words of God as absolute was great blessing and joy.
Here is another case; Naaman, commander of the army of the king of Aram, was cured of his serious disease by obeying the word of God absolutely. When Naaman was suffering from mortal disease, leprosy, he visited Elisha who lived in the land of Israel, through the recommendation of Hebraic maidservant whom he kept in his house. Then Elisha didn’t allow Naaman to see himself, but only sent a messenger to command him to wash himself seven times seven times in the Jordan. Naaman would go away in angry, counting impolitely Elisha’s treatment for the commander of the army of a nation. For he expected that Elisha would come out to him and lay his hands on himself and cure of his disease. But the prescription for his disease was far from his thought, and he could not believe that he would be healed by such a recipe. But Naaman changed his mind and washed himself in the Jordan with the mind of obedience, and he was cured of his skin like that of little child (2 Kings 5:1-27). If general Naaman had not obeyed absolutely the word of God spoken through Elisha, he would have finished his miserable life as a leper.
Even when the Israelites were about to cross the Jordan in order to possess the land of Canaan after forty years in the desert, the absolute obedience was required. In the rainy season that the river overflew all it’s banks, God commanded the Israelites to go ahead of them. In common knowledge, ferries or rafts at least would be required to cross a river. But Joshua believed absolutely that the words of God would bring forth a gracious result. Indeed, as soon as the Israelites dipped their feet into the Jordan, believing the words of God absolutely, so much water was pushed out, that they could cross over the Jordan as on dry land.
When the Israelites arrived in the land of Canaan, the fortress of Jericho stood dreadfully before them. Without conquering Jericho the firm fortress, they couldn’t enter Canaan. Under such circumstance, they were ordered to march around the Jericho. It would be an ordinary way of conquering the fortress to build siege ramps and make ladders, arrows, spears, shields and battering rams for breading the gate and to plan a strategy. However, God told them an unreasonable and strange operation beyond common sense, and those who believed God with common sense couldn’t carry it out.
On the first day, they marched around the city once, but nothing happened. And on the second day, they marched around the city in the same manner, but it didn’t still move at all. On the third, fourth, fifth, and sixth day, they did so. Those who didn’t have absolute faith must have been anxious; they might have fallen into men’s common sense, “We would rather sharpen our swords or make one more spear or make battering rams to break the gate”. On the seventh day that they marched around the city seven times, they might have despaired deeply, doubting, “Will it collapse or not”? or “We may collapse from exhaustion”. But what result did God give the Israelites who obeyed absolutely His words? When they shouted with a great shout, the wall collapse. By conquering the city of Jericho, they prepared the foundation for entering the promised land of Canaan..
But after Israelites came out of Egypt, they didn’t keep such absolute faith until the end. As a result, six hundred thousand men were killed miserably in the desert. As it is written:
Hebrews 3:17-19 [And with whom was he angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose bodies fell in the desert? And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed? So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.]
We come to a conclusion that no one can follow the commands of God without absolute obedience. Even what is beyond common sense will be settled naturally if we only carry it out with absolute obedience toward God. Such an absolute obedience is also required to keep the commands of God. Some persist in their arrogant opinions: “It doesn’t matter whether we worship on Sunday or Saturday” or “If we appoint 25th of December as the holy birthday of Jesus Christ and celebrate it, though we don’t celebrate Passover, God will be pleased with it”, or “We will be saved, though we don’t keep the Passover, for we have Communion every month or every week”. The reason they say such nonsense is that they don’t regard the words of God as absolute, but degrade them lower than the insistence of men. Those who believe God with their own thoughts will never be saved.
Sometimes, those who obey the words of God absolutely seem to be abnormal to the eyes of those who do not regard them as absolute: Naaman who washed himself even seven times in the dirty water of the Jordan, not in the clear water, the Israelites who marched around the city Jericho instead of attacking it, Abraham who was willing to sacrifice his precious son as an offering, Noah who made the ark on top of the mountains, sweating profusely, on the clear days. All of them might seem to be abnormal and crazy to the eyes of the people. But if we realize that God asks us to do something only for our own sake, we will obey God’s words absolutely without persisting our own thought, by which we can become perfect. When God demands us absolute obedience, it is not to oppress us dictatorially, but to give benefits to us who cannot foresee the future.
These days, it is regarded as very reasonable and natural that men or animals or images of nature move as reality on television. But only 100 years ago, people couldn’t even imagine such a thing at all; if anyone said that there would be television, he must have been treated as a mad man.
Men can not know the things to come 100 years or later or 10 years or one year later. Really they are ignorant, and they can’t foresee what will happen even after a second. To them, what will God teach and what will He explain?
John 3:12 Jesus said to them [“I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?”] Like Jesus’ word, men cannot fathom God’s great will.
But God always prepares righteous and beneficial results, and allows them only to those who believe and follow Him. Nevertheless, most people do not believe the fact completely, that they sometimes undergo sufferings and sometimes wander about and fall into death after all. Now, we should keep in mind that the way to proceed to the kingdom of heaven is only to obey the commands of God absolutely and to believe that we are to receive His absolute blessing after absolute obedience. God gave us absolute commands to give us His absolute love.
Mary, don't just say you love God. Follow His words absolutely by only keeping what He told you and not adding something else like "I can worship God anytime I want." Again, Naaman kept the Word of God by absolutely following His words exactly as God told him to wash himself in the dirty river. Or the Israelites who marched around the walls of Jericho 7 times because they kept God's words absolutely instead of their common sense to just attack it. God bless you.
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God's Sabbath Day - Saturday or Sunday?
by brofromzion ingod bless you.
so you worship god on sunday?
didn't god commanded us to keep the sabbath day?
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brofromzion
digderidoo said "Witnesses also believe that the Sabbath should no longer be observed, that the need to keep the sabbath was done away with along with the Ten Commandments at Jesus death."
Digderidoo, are you sure about that? Can we actually worship God whenever we want? By the way, I'm not a Seventh Day Adventist. I follow God according to the Bible, not the opinion of men. Let me show you what the Bible really testifies:
Matthew 12:8 [For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.]
Luke 6:5 [Then Jesus said to them, "The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."]
Luke 4:16 [He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom....]
Acts 17:2 [As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures...]
Clearly, Jesus and His Apostles kept the Sabbath day as God's custom. digderidoo, are these words not clear to you?Matthew 5:17-20 ["Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven]
digderidoo, are you sure we can worship God anytime we want or should we follow Jesus and the Apostles customs?
1 Corinthians 11:1-2 [Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ. I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings, just as I passed them on to you.]
digderidoo, it's probably okay to preach God's words anytime but as far as worshipping God, it should be on Sabbath day, not anytime we feel like.
John 5:41 ["I do not accept praise from men]
Mark 7:6-9 [He [Jesus] replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: "'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!"]
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God's Sabbath Day - Saturday or Sunday?
by brofromzion ingod bless you.
so you worship god on sunday?
didn't god commanded us to keep the sabbath day?
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brofromzion
God bless you. So you worship God on Sunday? Didn't God commanded us to keep the Sabbath day? Let's look at the Bible if God really told us to keep the Sabbath day:
Jer. 17:24-27 ["But if you are careful to obey me, declares the LORD...keep the Sabbath day holy by not doing any work on it,...this city will be inhabited forever.... But if you do not obey me to keep the Sabbath day holy by not carrying any load as you come through the gates of Jerusalem on the Sabbath day, then I will kindle an unquenchable fire in the gates of Jerusalem that will consume her fortresses."]
Exodus 20:11 [For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.]
So God commanded us, through the Bible, to keep the Sabbath day holy by giving this day to Him to worship Him. Now let's find out when is the Sabbath day through the Bible:
Mark 16:9 [When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.]
So we celebrate Jesus resurrection on Sunday. The Bible says that Jesus rose on the "first day of the week". So that makes Saturday the seventh day of the week. Let's even look at our own Dictionary online to see the meaning of Sunday and Saturday:
Saturday - seventh day of the week, following Friday.
Reference: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Saturday
Sunday - first day of the week, observed as the Sabbath by most Christian sects.
Reference: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Sunday
So why most Christians are keeping Sunday, the first day of the week, as the Sabbath day when God Himself made Saturday, the seventh day of the week, the rest day and made it holy for Him. Now did Jesus and His Apostles kept the Sabbath day?
Matthew 12:8 [For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.]
Luke 6:5 [Then Jesus said to them, "The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."]
Luke 4:16 [He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom....]
Acts 17:2 [As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures...]
Clearly, Jesus and His Apostles kept the Sabbath day as God's custom. So how did it change from the seventh to the first day?
After the apostles died, Christianity spread to western regions, including Rome. The gospel was preached to sun-god worshipers, and in the early 4th century, even the Roman emperor had heard the message of Christ. The emperor happened to be a leader of the sun-god worshipers, and when he converted to Christianity, many sun-god worshipers began to attend Church. As time passed, the faith of the Christians weakened, and they began to accept the customs of the sun-god worshipers. During this turn-over, they even began to rest and to worship on the first day of the week [Sunday]. In A.D. 321, Constantine, a Roman emperor, decreed an edict:
"All judges, city-people and craftsmen shall rest on the venerable day of the Sun."
Some argue that the abolishment of the Sabbath compelled many people to convert to Christianity, but we must not forget that altering God's commandments was Satan's scheme. Satan, the devil, opposes God and has historically harassed God's people, using various methods.
So if most Christians are worshipping God on Sunday, are they following God's tradition or rules taught by men:
Mark 7:6-9 [He [Jesus] replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: "'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!"]
I hope it's clear to you. God bless you. -
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God's Sabbath Day - Saturday or Sunday?
by brofromzion ingod bless you.
so you worship god on sunday?
didn't god commanded us to keep the sabbath day?
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brofromzion
God bless you. So you worship God on Sunday? Didn't God commanded us to keep the Sabbath day? Let's look at the Bible if God really told us to keep the Sabbath day:
Jer. 17:24-27 ["But if you are careful to obey me, declares the LORD...keep the Sabbath day holy by not doing any work on it,...this city will be inhabited forever.... But if you do not obey me to keep the Sabbath day holy by not carrying any load as you come through the gates of Jerusalem on the Sabbath day, then I will kindle an unquenchable fire in the gates of Jerusalem that will consume her fortresses."]
Exodus 20:11 [For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.]
So God commanded us, through the Bible, to keep the Sabbath day holy by giving this day to Him to worship Him. Now let's find out when is the Sabbath day through the Bible:
Mark 16:9 [When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.]
So we celebrate Jesus resurrection on Sunday. The Bible says that Jesus rose on the "first day of the week". So that makes Saturday the seventh day of the week. Let's even look at our own Dictionary online to see the meaning of Sunday and Saturday:
Saturday - seventh day of the week, following Friday.
Reference: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Saturday
Sunday - first day of the week, observed as the Sabbath by most Christian sects.
Reference: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Sunday
So why most Christians are keeping Sunday, the first day of the week, as the Sabbath day when God Himself made Saturday, the seventh day of the week, the rest day and made it holy for Him. Now did Jesus and His Apostles kept the Sabbath day?
Matthew 12:8 [For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.]
Luke 6:5 [Then Jesus said to them, "The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."]
Luke 4:16 [He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom....]
Acts 17:2 [As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures...]
Clearly, Jesus and His Apostles kept the Sabbath day as God's custom. So how did it change from the seventh to the first day?
After the apostles died, Christianity spread to western regions, including Rome. The gospel was preached to sun-god worshipers, and in the early 4th century, even the Roman emperor had heard the message of Christ. The emperor happened to be a leader of the sun-god worshipers, and when he converted to Christianity, many sun-god worshipers began to attend Church. As time passed, the faith of the Christians weakened, and they began to accept the customs of the sun-god worshipers. During this turn-over, they even began to rest and to worship on the first day of the week [Sunday]. In A.D. 321, Constantine, a Roman emperor, decreed an edict:
"All judges, city-people and craftsmen shall rest on the venerable day of the Sun."
Some argue that the abolishment of the Sabbath compelled many people to convert to Christianity, but we must not forget that altering God's commandments was Satan's scheme. Satan, the devil, opposes God and has historically harassed God's people, using various methods.
So if most Christians are worshipping God on Sunday, are they following God's tradition or rules taught by men:
Mark 7:6-9 [He [Jesus] replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written: "'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!"]
I hope it's clear to you. God bless you. -
brofromzion
Wow we have a bunch of unbelievers that don't believe what the Bible testifies. You guys keep saying that Jesus can't save you when you guys are not looking at what the Bible testifies. Clearly, you guys don't the the secret of forgiveness of sins that Jesus brought us. Do you guys know why you are here on Earth? Is God a loving God? Does He enjoy seeing His children in pain? sorrow? Then why would He put us in Earth that is full of pain, sorrow, sickness. Let's study the Bible and find out why are we here on Earth. First, let's find out what how God created the first man, Adam:
Genesis 2:7 [Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.]
So man is compose of two elements: dust which is the flesh and breathe of life which is out spirit or soul. Then what happens when a man dies:
Ecclesiastes 12:7 [then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.]
Return? So our dust returns to the Earth as it was and our spirit returns to God? How can we return to a place where we have never been before? Like for example, if I tell you to return to my home and you have never been there, how can you? Then we must have been in Heaven with God even before all men were created in Earth. Let's find out through the Bible if we have life even before the world were created. Here, King Solomon testifies about our existence even before world were created by God:
Proverbs 8:22-26 ["The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works before his deeds of old; I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. When there were no oceans, as given birth, when there were no springs abounding with water; before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was given birth, before he made the earth or its fields or any of the dust of the world.]
Proverbs 8:30 [Then I was the craftsman at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence.]
Wow. Clearly King Solomon was a craftsman at God's side before the world began, before God made the Earth or any dust of the world. Then now let's see another example of our existence before the world began when God spoke to Job:
Job 38:1-4 [Then the LORD answered Job out of the storm. He said: "Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge? Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me. "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.]
Job 38:21 [Surely you know, for you were already born! You have lived so many years!]
Wow. Another proof of our existence before the world began that God revealed to Job that he was already born and have lived so many years before God laid the Earth's foundation. King Solomon and Job are also men like us, composed of dust(flesh) and breathe of life(spirit or soul). So now, why are we all men here on Earth that's full of sorrow, pain and suffering when we all rejoice in God's presence with Him? Let's see what the Bible reveals to us what God did to King of Tyre:
Ezekiel 28:12-17 ["Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: " 'You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings.]
King of Tyre, a guardian cherub, was thrown to the Earth by God because he sinned? Now it's clear that all of us are here on Earth because of sin. Now what is the punishment of sin:
Romans 6:23 [For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.]
Romans 5:12 [Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned.]
Death is the punishment of sin and we all sinned since we are all on Earth, it also says that God's gift is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord:
Ephesians 1:7 [In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace.]
Now through Jesus blood, our sins can be forgiven. Did Jesus gave us a way to receive it?
Luke 22:7-8 [Then came the day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, "Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover."]
Luke 22:19-20 [And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me." In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.]
John 6:53 [Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.]
There you go. The Passover lamb, Jesus body and blood gives eternal life. But can we celebrate it whenever we want or look at the Bible on when to celebrate it? Remember, it is also celebrated on the first month on the fourteenth day, just as celebrated in the age of the Father, Jehovah:
Matthew 5:17 ["Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.]
Jesus fulfilll the laws of the Prophets, not to abolished them. Passover lamb in the Old Testament is just the shadow of Jesus suffering and bearing our sins so that we may have eternal life and escape death and disaster. God is so merciful and has always given us a chance to escape from death and disasters and return to Him in Heaven by celebrating the Passover just as Jesus and His Apostles celebrated it. God bless you.