Posts by passwordprotected

The problem with trying to keep a relationship going with hardline JW's who have made a vow of loyalty to Brooklyn diktats Jehovah (women seem particularly susceptible to this - runs for cover) is that the elephant in the room is so huge that there is no room for the people. Like Diana said "There were three of us in the marriage and it was a bit crowded."

Also, the problem in the relationship isn't actually the person who has left or the person who is still a JW, it's the blooming organisation that dictates every facet of their life. The people are fine, it's the rules of the organisation that ruins things. But it's not like you're allowed to point that out or anything, because one of their rules is never to speak to or listen to you.

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Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith

by whereami in

jw
friends

do you think the wts would except this?.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-07-21-atheists-debaptism_n.htm?csp=usat.me.

passwordprotected

Even if athiesm could be defined as a religion, why is it so offensive to those who are in other religions?

For me personally, it's not the religion of atheism that's so offensive, it's that the atheist won't 'fess up to it!

You have a faith! You have beliefs! You have books! You have preachers! All that's missing is the cathedrals.

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Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith

by whereami in

jw
friends

do you think the wts would except this?.

.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-07-21-atheists-debaptism_n.htm?csp=usat.me.

passwordprotected

I see atheism as another word for anarchy

OK, now you're just being silly.

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What really matters to the elders- Podcast 9 Judicial Hearing

by Hobo Ken in

this is the next part of the story, when the judicial hearings begin.

click on the link here to listen...deathorobedience.blogspot.com.

also free on itunes here.

passwordprotected

Sorry, Gail was logged in (yes, she now has an account, all will become clear) when I posted the above.

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Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith

by whereami in

jw
friends

do you think the wts would except this?.

.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-07-21-atheists-debaptism_n.htm?csp=usat.me.

passwordprotected

I am quite astounded that you cannot see such an obvious parallel.

And these people were forced to be baptised? C'mon.

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JW Defenders- Is WTS Right to Insist You Stay Away From these Websites?

by OnTheWayOut in

i read these threads and there are a few that bend over backwards to say why wts is correct on this issue or that issue.. they act like typical jw's that refuse to acknowledge points that may show that wts is not following the scriptures or that wts goes beyond the scriptures in a way that is not supported by others.. the point could be the blood issue or shunning or whether 1799 or 1914 was the start (or finish?

) of the last days or whether there is a faithful and discreet slave class or not.

i don't want to harp on each point.

passwordprotected

Spike, the only people who can answer your questions are your Watch Tower leaders as they are the ones who make the rules.

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Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith

by whereami in

jw
friends

do you think the wts would except this?.

.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-07-21-atheists-debaptism_n.htm?csp=usat.me.

passwordprotected

i'll not rush out to get myself debaptised though, it would be like giving the first time round credence

And that with I think we've hit on the core issue.

As I've already said, it's a bit like sending Santa a letter to tell him you don't believe in him anymore.

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Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith

by whereami in

jw
friends

do you think the wts would except this?.

.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-07-21-atheists-debaptism_n.htm?csp=usat.me.

passwordprotected

Well, having seen the responses I will have to go with totally lacking in empathy. Given the depth of feeling exhibited on this site toward a religion that the majority on here freely joined, you would think there would be at least some sympathy for those who show similar depth of feeling regarding a religion they had no choice in 'joining' How very un-christian.

So you're comparing adults who are grieved over their parents having them baptised as infants with people who were in a high control cult but who have left and are probably being shunned by their family? Is that a reasonable comparison to make?

Quite why you expect empathy to be shown to people going through some sort of ritualistic de-baptism is puzzling.