Let's start with the Watch Tower Society's claim that it was chosen by God in 1919 to be his sole channel of communication on earth.
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MY LYING MOTHER IN LAW
by iknowall558 inthis is not a thread to gain sympathy.
my life has changed dramatically over the weekend.
my husband (hoboken) has just left me and my two boys.. i'm not going to divulge all the details, but needless to say things are very tough emotionally for all of us.
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I think the fact that it's taken her to today to get in touch is very telling. I wonder if she had to have a 'meeting' with Hobo's elder brother before she was allowed to contact you.
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So long and thanks for all the fish.
by reniaa inhere is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.
posting a message for everyone or just some..
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What did Spike get booted for?
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So long and thanks for all the fish.
by reniaa inhere is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.
posting a message for everyone or just some..
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Careful, ninja, talking about the IP address issue will result in this thread being locked.
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So long and thanks for all the fish.
by reniaa inhere is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.
posting a message for everyone or just some..
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I was listening to Jay Hess's testimony and what I found interesting was that he said his spirit had left the WTS but his mind was still in. He was used as a 'trouble shooter' whereby he'd visit pastors, ministers or other people who were in some sort of ministry to JWs. He would go with a purpose of wearing them out and he'd do this by;
- never using the NWT or getting into discussions about the accuracy of the NWT
- never using Watch Tower publications or articles
- always trying to get the discussion off topic and back to the areas he could work best in
- he would admit all knowing all of the negative stuff about the WTS that's usually banded about by apostates, but his reply was always, "yeah, so what?"
Anyway, listening to his tactics and methods of confounding apostate discussion reminded me of Reniaa's methods on JWN. I realise that Simon and others believe that Reniaa was genuinely a single-mum raising 3 kids, one of whom is disabled, another of whom is just a baby, and was truthfully searching for the truth about the WTS. However, I don't. I'm sure Reniaa was several people and their sole purpose was to get threads off topic, obfuscate discussions and continually deflect arguments and objections regarding legitimate WTS issues onto areas such as the Trinity and the divinity of Christ.
Out of interest, what did Spike do to get thrown off?
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A Question Ex-Jws and Atheist On This Site
by Blue Grass ini have a question for the regulars on this site which are mainly ex-jws and atheist.
my first question is just for the atheist.
why do you guys spend so much time discussing and researching a book you believe to be fiction?
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Rather hilariously, my mother called me a coward for leaving the Watch Tower Society. I think it's typical cult-think to point to those who have left as being cowards - or in this case losers - when leaving a high-control religious cult is one of the hardest things you'll ever do in your life. It just means that those who are still allowing themselves to be controlled by the Governing Body are left feeling shortchanged in some way, possibly because they're left living the drudgery of JW life, and have to result to cheap ad hominem attacks.
Welcome to the forum anyway, I look forward to seeing your attitude change over the months.
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So long and thanks for all the fish.
by reniaa inhere is a goodbye thread for people who have decided to move on and leave jwn.
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Reniaa and Spike have quit at the same time?
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What will the JW religion be like in 2015?
by JimmyPage inover 100 years into the reign of christ and six more years of damage from the internet.
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what do you envision?.
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Expect to see a greater separation of the hardcore cult stuff with the more palatable mainstream stuff, as we're already seen with the Study and Public editions of the WT.
They will need to increase their grip on the loyal members, so expect greater levels of fear and intimidation (see the article "Family Worship - Vital for Survival" for their model). Along with this will come an escalation of persecution against dissenters. Faders will be firmly in their sights.
However, in a bid to drive new membership, expect them to appear more mainstream to the outside; shorter Sunday meeting will be one way they'll do this, along with an ever increasing sanitation, "don't-you-love-fluffy-pandas?"-type Watchtower articles for the public.
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Theodore Jaracz Update
by Japster in.
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latest news is that tj is up and around but is living in a house on the wallkill properties.. he is being tended to by a group of the societies doctors and nurses to make sure that he is continuing to improve.. shucks, guess he may be around giving orders for some time yet.. japster.
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This is how cults treat their leaders.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-30-09 WT Study (STEWARD)
by blondie inhttp://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.
http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.
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Could this be one of those "wake up and smell the coffee" articles? My wife's brother-in-law, a local elder, commented to me when I told him we were attending church (this was last October) that he had noticed the FDS being elevated above Jesus. It was clear to me that this made him uneasy and he knew it was one of the reasons my wife and I were no longer going to the meetings.
You have to think that there are some who will be sufficiently troubled by the craziness of this article and will awaken from their stupor.