Posts by passwordprotected

if convicted, they face fines of 2,500 each and a criminal record.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6209687/christian-hoteliers-charged-with-insulting-muslim-guest.html.

does this mean that our uk apostabuddies are now able to lay charges against jws who insult them in some religious way?

passwordprotected

I've nothing to discuss on this topic; the simple question is are we on a level playing field? The reductionist's content on this thread has answered my question to my satisfaction.

Have a great Saturday.

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Christian hoteliers charged with insulting Muslim guest. Implications for JWs?

by Black Sheep in

ben and sharon vogelenzang are charged with breaching section 5 of the public order act causing harassment, alarm or distress.

if convicted, they face fines of 2,500 each and a criminal record.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6209687/christian-hoteliers-charged-with-insulting-muslim-guest.html.

does this mean that our uk apostabuddies are now able to lay charges against jws who insult them in some religious way?

passwordprotected, the way I see it indivduals who feel offended have the right to bring charges when they feel insulted in a public place. It is for the courts to decide. Moreover if you are running an hotel part of one's education would include the maintenance of ethical standards in a guest hotelier relationship. Also the newspaper reports that the hoteliers were interrrogated very thoroughly by the police before charges were brought.

None of this answers my questions, I'm afraid.

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Christian hoteliers charged with insulting Muslim guest. Implications for JWs?

by Black Sheep in

ben and sharon vogelenzang are charged with breaching section 5 of the public order act causing harassment, alarm or distress.

if convicted, they face fines of 2,500 each and a criminal record.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6209687/christian-hoteliers-charged-with-insulting-muslim-guest.html.

does this mean that our uk apostabuddies are now able to lay charges against jws who insult them in some religious way?

passwordprotected

What if an avowed atheist were to say that Mohammad was a warlord and that burqas are bondage? Would this get column inches in the newspapers and would people be hoping that they would lose in a court case?

Would we expect the atheist to get an education? Would we be offended at the atheist taking exception to the Muslim's beliefs? What about an atheist's reputation in the community? Are atheists to be free from accusations of intolerance towards the faith of Muslims or Christians, or do they get a pass because to them any form of faith is delusional and irrational?

Conversely, what if a Muslim where to argue that Christians were offensively arrogant by stating that Jesus is the only way to God? Would they be charged with with breaching Section 5 of the Public Order Act – causing harassment, alarm or distress to the Christian?

Would we be posting on this forum that we hoped the Muslims would get a criminal record and a £2500 fine?

Are we on a level playing field?

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Now you can post your comments on the Watchtower.org website!

by Elsewhere in

jw
friends

the wts was smart enough to not setup a forum on their site.

they knew too much of the truth would come out!.

google has released a simple solution to this little problem: google sidewiki.

passwordprotected

You all are assuming that everyone will use this toolbar. That's a big assumption, and I don't think it will pan out. I know I won't install any such thing.

But what about those who, unlike you, will install it? No one is assuming that 'everyone' will install the toolbar. Assuming that we're assuming that is an assumption, and a big one.

Thanks!

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The WT is turning out stupid children.

by is there help out there in

jw
friends

when the children in the kh do not sit still they are taken in the back and spanked and acording to this report it lowers there iq.. .

jeanna bryner.

senior writer.

passwordprotected

When the children in the KH do not sit still they are taken in the back and spanked and acording to this report it lowers there IQ.

Were you spanked much?

(just teasing)

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The WT is turning out stupid children.

by is there help out there in

jw
friends

when the children in the kh do not sit still they are taken in the back and spanked and acording to this report it lowers there iq.. .

jeanna bryner.

senior writer.

passwordprotected

I would have thought believing that it's not important to get an education would turn out more stupid kids than spanking would.

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Christian hoteliers charged with insulting Muslim guest. Implications for JWs?

by Black Sheep in

ben and sharon vogelenzang are charged with breaching section 5 of the public order act causing harassment, alarm or distress.

if convicted, they face fines of 2,500 each and a criminal record.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6209687/christian-hoteliers-charged-with-insulting-muslim-guest.html.

does this mean that our uk apostabuddies are now able to lay charges against jws who insult them in some religious way?

passwordprotected

Among the things Mr Vogelenzang, 53, is alleged to have said is that Mohammad was a warlord. His wife, 54, is said to have stated that Muslim dress is a form of bondage for women.

Yeah, I can see how the Christians in this story could be perceived as being nutters for saying Mohammad was a warlord and that the burqa is a form of bondage.

NIV©	Stay in that house, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.
NAS©	"Stay in that house, eating and drinking what they give you; for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not keep moving from house to house.
ISV©	Stay with the same family, eating and drinking whatever they provide, because the worker deserves his pay. Don't move from house to house.
GWT©	Stay with the family that accepts you. Eat and drink whatever they offer you. After all, the worker deserves his pay. Do not move around from one house to another.
KJV	And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
AKJ	And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the laborer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
ASV	And in that same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the laborer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
BBE	And keep in that same house, taking what food and drink they give you: for the worker has a right to his reward. Do not go from house to house.
DRB	And in the same house, remain, eating and drinking such things as they have: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Remove not from house to house.
DBY	And in the same house abide, eating and drinking such things as they have; for the workman is worthy of his hire. Remove not from house to house.
ERV	And in that same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
WBS	And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the laborer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
WEY	And in that same house stay, eating and drinking at their table; for the labourer deserves his wages. Do not move from one house to another.
WEB	Remain in that same house, eating and drinking the things they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Don't go from house to house.
YLT	And in that house remain, eating and drinking the things they have, for worthy is the workman of his hire; go not from house to house,