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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".

by undercover in

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minimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.

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Why has this thread been allowed to turn into a debate about the Trinity?

The topic is "PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth"".

Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." Jesus said "Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him."

So, the challenge is to prove that JWs have the truth. According to the Truth's own words, to have him you need to eat his flesh and drink his blood.

Do Jehovah's Witnesses do this?

Perhaps around 10,000 of their 7 million members do. The rest are strongly discouraged to do this.

So, using that very simple benchmark, do Jehovah's Witnesses have the Truth?

No.

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Girl Flees for her life after becoming Christian

by AK - Jeff in

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerindex?id=8317410.

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ABC New story of a 17 year old Muslim girl who secretly became a Christian and whose family wants her to return to the family home. Her family discovered this through her postings on Facebook. Her father has threatened to kill her. He, however, has denied this in court.

(If she's 17, isn't she old enough to leave the family home?)

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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".

by undercover in

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friends

minimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.

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They don't go to war.

They have love among themselves.

They're fulfilling Matthew 24:14.

They wear suits.

They alone are using the name Jehovah.

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Selection of the JWs in 1918/1919 - how might a JW attempt to show from the Bible

by insearchoftruth in

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i had asked my wife, who is in the study phase with a jw sister about the selection of the jws by jc in 1918/1919 time frame and she had actually never heard of that.. the husband of this woman she is studying with has been chomping at the bit to talk to me...well my wife said she will ask him to come show me, using only the bible, how this selection was made...of course she did not clear this request with the dubman before telling me she would do this.. i am guessing he will be there when i get home from work tomorrow, she is also torturing our son with a bs now (her son from a previous marriage).. what sort of reach do you think he will try to make to show this...i am guessing he will try to show 1914 from the daniel/revelation stuff, if he does this i am going to ask him to show 607bce from a non jw source....since i believe it is 586/587 bce as a starting date......i hope to keep him on the 1918/1919 topic, and have some examples of their beliefs from that era to talk about as well.

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That would be quite some correction to make, to suddenly say, "woah, turns out we were actually wrong about 1919 after all."

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Selection of the JWs in 1918/1919 - how might a JW attempt to show from the Bible

by insearchoftruth in

jw
friends

i had asked my wife, who is in the study phase with a jw sister about the selection of the jws by jc in 1918/1919 time frame and she had actually never heard of that.. the husband of this woman she is studying with has been chomping at the bit to talk to me...well my wife said she will ask him to come show me, using only the bible, how this selection was made...of course she did not clear this request with the dubman before telling me she would do this.. i am guessing he will be there when i get home from work tomorrow, she is also torturing our son with a bs now (her son from a previous marriage).. what sort of reach do you think he will try to make to show this...i am guessing he will try to show 1914 from the daniel/revelation stuff, if he does this i am going to ask him to show 607bce from a non jw source....since i believe it is 586/587 bce as a starting date......i hope to keep him on the 1918/1919 topic, and have some examples of their beliefs from that era to talk about as well.

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But we're not talking with Catholics, we're talking with Jehovah's Witnesses who are controlled by a publishing corporation who happen to claim to be God's spokespeople on earth. Surely asking for proof of such a claim isn't a bad thing? Unless they're a cult...

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My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 5

by Simon in

my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 4. i swear, i thought it was only a couple of years at most since i wrote part 4 of "my life and how jwd came to be".

i re-read it after someone posted to it and brought it back on active topics and it was kind of prophetic in a way ... well, i had the 5 years part right if nothing else:.

it would be nice to visit the site (or whatever one is around then) in 5 years time to let people know how we're doing and find only a few of the same people still around.

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Thanks for sharing this. You and I share the opinion that our families, our parents in particular, are happy to choose a publishing corporation over the children they produced. Tragic, really.

Great story, we're jealous of you being able to move so far away from the UK. I've always fancied Canada since reading "Girlfriend in a Coma".

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Bill Cetnar tells a lie ....

by Raphael in

not the way to refute watchtower theology:.

bill and joan cetnar make a statement that russell said he spoke to angels , this is a blatant lie and we know what the bible says about liars .... he also says that russell claimed to be the fds and the laodicean messenger, both statements are misleading .

russell never claimed in any of his writings that he spoke to angels or was the aforementioned messenger or the fds , rather it was some of his associates that suggested he may be.. the cetnars also make a number of other poorly researched and misleading statements that sadly bring their own characters into disrepute .. .

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I'm with LWT and Ninja.

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WTBTS & OSCE etc.

by Kent in

it would be hard for the wtbts to deny their open connections to osce and other political forums.. http://www.jw-georgia.org/eng/rights/00octoscehrwf.htm.

this link is from an official jw website, and i believe those interested in such connections should take a long and hard look at the russiand and other jw sites.

it seems they are more "open" as to admit, and not least - use - their un connections as a tool of the trade.. i have reasons to believe the wtbts will try to use as defence that "human right issues are non-political" - and as such say the un connection is really a non-issue.

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Damn hypocrites.

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UK Mom Fined: "Grieving Too Long" at Son's Funeral

by Yizuman in

a grieving mother in britain was fined $173 for spending too long at her son's coffin before it was taken away for cremation.. .

terrie rouse, 32, said her grief turned to shock when officials told her she had taken too long to say goodbye, the daily mail reported.. .

"the vicar had asked if i would like to spend a bit more time saying goodbye," she said.

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Having been to the funeral of a child - our own baby - I can say it's an incredibly arduous ordeal (stating the obvious...), but we found all of the staff at the crematorium to be very sensitive and kind.

The muppets in this story need a boot up their backside.

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DNCall Unmasked - Part 4 of 5

by DNCall in

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startfragment.

even though i didnt have the title of elder, i was still active in my work at bethel and the congregation used me as much as possible.

when the congregation recommended that i once again serve as an elder, one elder raised the objection that that barbara was a low-hour publisher.

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Frank, great to finally get to hear your story. I know you via Besty (I ordered that CD from Amazon a while back), I've really enjoyed reading your story.