Posts by passwordprotected

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Tried and Failed methods of Field Service...

by vilot in

paul wrote: really, woe is me if i did not declare the good news!

(1 corinthians 9:16) he was not casual about the good news because preaching it meant life for himself and his hearers.

(1 timothy 4:16) we view our ministry in the same way.

passwordprotected

Jesus said do not go from house to house; so why is that their main way of preaching?

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Christian hoteliers charged with insulting Muslim guest. Implications for JWs?

by Black Sheep in

ben and sharon vogelenzang are charged with breaching section 5 of the public order act causing harassment, alarm or distress.

if convicted, they face fines of 2,500 each and a criminal record.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6209687/christian-hoteliers-charged-with-insulting-muslim-guest.html.

does this mean that our uk apostabuddies are now able to lay charges against jws who insult them in some religious way?

passwordprotected

I've nothing to discuss on this topic; the simple question is are we on a level playing field? The reductionist's content on this thread has answered my question to my satisfaction.

Have a great Saturday.

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Christian hoteliers charged with insulting Muslim guest. Implications for JWs?

by Black Sheep in

ben and sharon vogelenzang are charged with breaching section 5 of the public order act causing harassment, alarm or distress.

if convicted, they face fines of 2,500 each and a criminal record.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6209687/christian-hoteliers-charged-with-insulting-muslim-guest.html.

does this mean that our uk apostabuddies are now able to lay charges against jws who insult them in some religious way?

passwordprotected, the way I see it indivduals who feel offended have the right to bring charges when they feel insulted in a public place. It is for the courts to decide. Moreover if you are running an hotel part of one's education would include the maintenance of ethical standards in a guest hotelier relationship. Also the newspaper reports that the hoteliers were interrrogated very thoroughly by the police before charges were brought.

None of this answers my questions, I'm afraid.

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Christian hoteliers charged with insulting Muslim guest. Implications for JWs?

by Black Sheep in

ben and sharon vogelenzang are charged with breaching section 5 of the public order act causing harassment, alarm or distress.

if convicted, they face fines of 2,500 each and a criminal record.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6209687/christian-hoteliers-charged-with-insulting-muslim-guest.html.

does this mean that our uk apostabuddies are now able to lay charges against jws who insult them in some religious way?

passwordprotected

What if an avowed atheist were to say that Mohammad was a warlord and that burqas are bondage? Would this get column inches in the newspapers and would people be hoping that they would lose in a court case?

Would we expect the atheist to get an education? Would we be offended at the atheist taking exception to the Muslim's beliefs? What about an atheist's reputation in the community? Are atheists to be free from accusations of intolerance towards the faith of Muslims or Christians, or do they get a pass because to them any form of faith is delusional and irrational?

Conversely, what if a Muslim where to argue that Christians were offensively arrogant by stating that Jesus is the only way to God? Would they be charged with with breaching Section 5 of the Public Order Act – causing harassment, alarm or distress to the Christian?

Would we be posting on this forum that we hoped the Muslims would get a criminal record and a £2500 fine?

Are we on a level playing field?

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Now you can post your comments on the Watchtower.org website!

by Elsewhere in

jw
friends

the wts was smart enough to not setup a forum on their site.

they knew too much of the truth would come out!.

google has released a simple solution to this little problem: google sidewiki.

passwordprotected

You all are assuming that everyone will use this toolbar. That's a big assumption, and I don't think it will pan out. I know I won't install any such thing.

But what about those who, unlike you, will install it? No one is assuming that 'everyone' will install the toolbar. Assuming that we're assuming that is an assumption, and a big one.

Thanks!

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The WT is turning out stupid children.

by is there help out there in

jw
friends

when the children in the kh do not sit still they are taken in the back and spanked and acording to this report it lowers there iq.. .

jeanna bryner.

senior writer.

passwordprotected

When the children in the KH do not sit still they are taken in the back and spanked and acording to this report it lowers there IQ.

Were you spanked much?

(just teasing)

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The WT is turning out stupid children.

by is there help out there in

jw
friends

when the children in the kh do not sit still they are taken in the back and spanked and acording to this report it lowers there iq.. .

jeanna bryner.

senior writer.

passwordprotected

I would have thought believing that it's not important to get an education would turn out more stupid kids than spanking would.

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Christian hoteliers charged with insulting Muslim guest. Implications for JWs?

by Black Sheep in

ben and sharon vogelenzang are charged with breaching section 5 of the public order act causing harassment, alarm or distress.

if convicted, they face fines of 2,500 each and a criminal record.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6209687/christian-hoteliers-charged-with-insulting-muslim-guest.html.

does this mean that our uk apostabuddies are now able to lay charges against jws who insult them in some religious way?

passwordprotected

Among the things Mr Vogelenzang, 53, is alleged to have said is that Mohammad was a warlord. His wife, 54, is said to have stated that Muslim dress is a form of bondage for women.

Yeah, I can see how the Christians in this story could be perceived as being nutters for saying Mohammad was a warlord and that the burqa is a form of bondage.

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Who really is the faithful and discreet slave? (A perspective)

by StoneWall in

who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics,.

to give them their food at the proper time?

happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.. truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings" -matt.

passwordprotected

Is Christ still a slave and will he return as a slave?

The answer is no; his time as a slave to mankind is over, he's now King of King and Lords of Lords. To suggest that he is under the inspection of some Master or other is false.

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Jehovah Witnesses are NOT a bad Cult but man made type spiritual guide

by Butterflyleia85 in

when i was a jehovah's witness i remember these debates being mentioned about the raps of innocent children that elders commented, the blacks and whites segregation, the crosses and christmas tree in the bethal, etc.

jehovah's witnesses have always been harassed for these things.

with the changing world and knowledge of the scriptures they work hard to try to work towards accurateness.

passwordprotected

Once again, God is not dependant on people like Mannasseh or Moses (he never was, it was people who needed visible kings and leaders). Therefore, the entire premise of the Watch Tower Society of being God's channel of communication, God's only true organisation on earth to which people must come in order to receive salvation, is an Old Covenant idea.

And no matter how much time and effort the Watch Tower Society spend in trying to prove to people that they need an Old Covenant structure to follow and obey, it doesn't change the fact that we aren't to worship in this place, or in that temple, but rather to worship in spirit and truth, being guided by the Holy Spirit, with God's laws written on our hearts; in other words through the New Covenant.

God isn't going to restore truth to the Watch Tower Society; it didn't have it in the first place.