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Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

by Perry in

i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

(intellignet design).

hillary_step

real One,

You may be able to find grammatical errors in my posts, especially as I do not bother proof-reading them these days (incidentally your spelling of the word 'atheism' on your other thread is incorrect ;), but you will not find that my arguments are suspect.

I wish that one could note this about your own posts.

you didnt answer my question. I did read your link. See you are a false witness.

The link I gave you contained the answer to your question. Read it again. Then read it again. Then, if you have too, read it again until you understand what is being said. either you did read it and cannot understand what is being said, or you did not read it and are lying.

As I said, even a minimal education on the subject will help.

HS

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Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

by Perry in

i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

(intellignet design).

hillary_step

real one,

"Goosebumps" or "gooseflesh" is known in medical terminology as piloerection (pil is from the Latin word for hair). People experience this phenomenon when they are cold or frightened. The hair is able to stand on end due to the contraction of the pili muscles at the base of the hairs. When they are triggered by external stimulus, the tiny muscles become hyperactive and the hair stands up straight. Because humans have very short hairs, our highly visible skin displays many small bumps as the pili muscles contract.
All mammals are capable of piloerection. Some scientists think it is used for warmth. The fluffing of hair or fur creates a barrier between the sensitive mammalian skin and the cold environment. Within the hair area pockets, warm air is trapped, keeping the animal protected. Piloerection may also be a defensive reaction. With all of its hair standing on end, the animal would look larger, causing a predator to look for less imposing prey.

Good and agreed. Goosebumps happen to humans for the same reasons that they happen to animals.

1) As a means of warming themselves IF THEY HAVE A BODY FULL OF HAIR. Look at the way birds fluff up their feathers to keep warm. Humans do not have hair on their bodies in quantities that allow for even minimal warming. Goosebumps are an inheritance from our evolutionary past.

2) Goosebumps occur in animals in situations where they are in fear of a predator and the hair follicles react forcing the hair to stand on end so that the prey looks bigger than it actually is. A protective mechanism.

What does this tell you about God the designer? Think about it.

HS

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Athiest or Agnostic?

by real one in

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how can one be considered an athiest?

athiest means you believe god does not exist.

agnostic means you don't know if god really exist.

hillary_step

Real One,

How can one be considered an athiest? Athiest means you believe God does not exist. Agnostic means you don't know if God really exist. I'm confused.

Yes, you certainly are confused, and about a number of important matters. Education is your only help in this matter. Atheism, at least in its more definitive term, does not mean what you think it does. Before you attack atheists and atheism, why not dignify yourself by finding out what these terms actually mean. Read David Hume and find out why agnosticism is in fact based on honest subjectivity and is not a religion. Find out why your definition of atheism is wide of the mark. Above all, stop making the rudimentary religionists error of perceiving both atheism and agnosticism as some sort of 'reverse' religious thinking. Neither of them are. HS

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Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

by Perry in

i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

(intellignet design).

hillary_step

real one,

WHO HATCHED THE EGG, Adam?

A comment that should anyone care to take seriously, proves conclusively that like most Creationists you have absolutely no clue about the process of evolution or animal enthnology. It also proves that you did not even attempt to read the link that I posted, in which this question is answered. But as I noted, Creationists have no interest in learning anything but how to bend facts to suit an preconceived conclusion.

Get an minimal education, then come back and try again.

HS

PS - If you want to stay in the game, how about answering the question that I posed to both yourself and Perry and which you have avoided answering. Why do humans get goosebumps?

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Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

by Perry in

i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

(intellignet design).

hillary_step

Real One,

what came first the chicken or the egg?

The egg. Genecitists have grappled with this issue and science has won out intelligently again.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/

But why would you be interested in knowing the TRUE answer to such a question? Your mind is already made up, though in another direction.

HS

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Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

by Perry in

i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

(intellignet design).

hillary_step

Dan & Galileo,

When one see the ease with which Fundieloons like Perry swallow this miserable rubbish it does nothing to bolster the image of the US education system.

HS

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Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

by Perry in

i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

(intellignet design).

hillary_step

Perry,

Speaking of dinosuars and dragons, I thought the readers would like to hear more of the insantity that Creationists pass as 'science', as if they have not heard enough of it from your good self.

Now, Job 41:15 speaks of a creature that issues flames. Of course, Fundieloons like Perry, are not allowed to see poetry or metaphor in any statements such as these, so they must rationalize, bend facts, play around with tin-foil hats, and of course pray to the Lord for greater understanding. So what did the Lord Jesus inform his zealous Fundieloons on planet earth might be the answer to this mysterious description in Job 41:15?

He informed them that actually this beast, and all other beasts which were described in folk-lore as 'dragons' were actually dinosaurs, which of course given Biblical 'science' fits in with the idea of dinosuars being relatively recent, and that Satan has been messing with geology to fool those who lack faith.

So where do the flames issuing from the mouth of these dinosaur 'dragons' come from. Mmmmm.....now that is a problem....except of course to the Fundieloons (with the help of Jesus Christ PHD) who have come up with a novel idea. You see, dinosaurs ate tons of vegetation giving rise to methane. When the dinosuars 'clicked' their teeth together, this would give rise to sparks which would....yes....ignite the methane! Think I am joking?

http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=50

HS

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Is anybody out there....

by wings in

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....that is not sure if you believe in god?

i envy those of you who have moved through this space.

wings.

hillary_step

Awakened,

Welcome to JW Agnostics.com

Actually Leslie Weatherhead, a Methodist minister wrote his very progressive book, 'The Christian Agnostic' in the 60's in which he deals with the ethics of honesty and belief.

In it he reconciles the 'I don't know' with the 'I want to know' and accepts that those attracted to the teachings of Christ can believe in them without believing, or at the least having no definate proof of a God. He was of course criticized by the religious majority who felt he was trying to water down Christianity, though the reality is that he was years ahead of his time and breaking the mould of blinkered thinking by trying to be honest about the matter.

The reality is that once the very suspect emotional framework of 'faith' is put aside, no religionist can verify Christ, Allah, or any of the Gods existence and as Weatherford noted, to do so without verifiable evidence is an act of intellectual dishonesty. Religionists need to understand that faith can be very admirable, postive and useful, but it is a chemically internal word and not an external addition to ones emotions.

It is so refreshing to read the words of such realistic religious thinkers, Martin Palmer being another. His book 'Living Christianity' is imo one of the most fascinating and honest books about the subject that I have read. These sorts of minds are few and far between in the religious community as medievalism and religion are never too far from each other.

My summation of an average religionist is of a person sitting in a Model T Ford with a Porsche handbook and trying to reconcile the mechanics. It is no wonder so many of them look foolish in a modern world.

HS

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The JWD stigma about being "nice"

by changeling in

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i'm back from a little jwd break and i'm happy to see that things are not as volatile as when i left.

however, some things never change.

and one thing that seems to be a constant around here is the mentality of some very intelligent and knowledgeble ones (in their own minds at least) that if you are "nice" you are some how emotionally needy and/or not too bright.. i don't think the "happy people" on the board have anything against people with high iq's.

hillary_step

Wings,

What we are talking about is compassionate, empathetic, caring posters ending up on the same thread with the more straightforward, balls to the wall thinkers (I'm having a harder time with adjectives to describe the slice and dice club, you can help me with this if you wish). Divisions seem normal to me. We are who we are and like it or not we do fit in categories. Some feed off controversy, some need less of it, some can't handle it at all. That does not mean that the later does not belong on this board. What it does mean is that those that can't handle the heat should stay out of the kitchen. There are plenty of other rooms in the house.

I could not agree more with this statement, with one proviso.

It needs to be acknowledged that the Cuddly Club were the first to raise the issue of the lack on 'niceness' on this Board by, in many cases virulently criticizing those who chose a less couched form of interchanging, it was NOT an issue started by the 'mean' people on the Board. I merely pointed and point out what bloody hypocrites they are and I have their bullying, overdramatized, judgemental, boring and abusive private mail as evidence.

I am happy to allow people to be who they are and say what they want, how they want, whenever they want, whether it be 'nice' or 'mean', however the Cuddly Club wish to describe it. We should all take responsibility for our words whatever we say. I am prepared to do that, but it seems that many members of the My Little Pony Abattoir have issues with doing so.

HS

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The JWD stigma about being "nice"

by changeling in

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friends

i'm back from a little jwd break and i'm happy to see that things are not as volatile as when i left.

however, some things never change.

and one thing that seems to be a constant around here is the mentality of some very intelligent and knowledgeble ones (in their own minds at least) that if you are "nice" you are some how emotionally needy and/or not too bright.. i don't think the "happy people" on the board have anything against people with high iq's.

hillary_step

Wings,

No, nothing to regret here.

I think that this thread shows in focused detail the foolishness of taking anything said about you on on online discussion Board very seriously. It also higlights, as if it were needed, the stupidity of trying to judge character from posts on an anynomous, international discussion Board on which at least 30% of posters are on medication.

I have always said, and repeat it again, that if the comments on this Board made about you, postive or not, disturb one emotionally, then we should seek other more cuddlier Boards to interchange on. I understand that the Victorian Quilting Society has a Board where they have banned all words and pictures lest they offend. The screen is blank apart from the banner, and even this has raised the ire of some fundamentalist Quilters who have found that a blank screen seems to encourage them to grab the gardener and frolic in the hay.

This is the ultimate Cuddly Club environment. A controversy free, passionless, milk-sop of a paradise..

Yuuccchhh!

HS

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