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  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  hillary_step

  Oracle,

  No, I have been 'out' for many years.

  Cheers - HS
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  Long Intro From A Long Timer

  by hillary_step in

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  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  restrangled,

  You know, you get very tiresome, I addressed your your threads, not you as requested.

  You are a liar. If your personal and insulting post that was your ENTRY on this thread has not been removed by moderators it stands above on public record.

  I suspect that you think that like yourself most people do not bother reading posts before posting. Some of us have some personal ethics.

  You owe me an apology Restrangled. Do you have enough principle in your 'supportive' little head to offer one? Somehow I doubt it.

  HS
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  by hillary_step in

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  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  hillary_step

  JK666,

  Try it sometime, instead of trying to fix everybody else.

  ...and you entered this thread unannounced to do just what? Another hypocrite on the ward....lol

  Now you know what I mean about principles and ignorance of them.

  HS
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  by hillary_step in

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  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  hillary_step

  Restrangled,

  But why are so many just torn to pieces by this man when they post

  I ONLY RESPOND, I DO NOT ATTACK.

  When are you going to get it through your head that it was YOU who 'tore me to pieces' in your first post to me on this thread. I merely RESPONDED in kind. YOU first posted insults. I replied in KIND. Get it? You insulted me first, I responded in kind. YOU need to apologize for doing so.

  I wonder if this has actually got through at last. Perhaps I should hire an aeroplane and write it in the sky!

  HS
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  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  hillary_step

  JK666,

  When someone is brutally honest, they are usually more interested in being brutal than honest.

  May I be honest? What you wrote above is rubbish built on 'self help' wishful thinking. If you can provide evidence for this statement, I may listen. You should be aware of the flaw in your own statement by your experiences within AA. I have been to numerous meetings over the years with AA in real support of friends. Brutal honesty is a requirement in many situations, especially with alchoholics and those who make self delusion a way of life.

  What I have observed recently, is that you cannot stand it when someone disagrees with your opinion. You fly into ad hominem attacks, making insulting comments about the one that disagrees with you. Are you that insecure that you have to stoop to this level?

  What you have NOT observed from me obviously and what you should have is that I NEVER throw the first rock. As I have noted so often on this thread that it is by now boring me is that you are leaving the word RESPONSE out of the equation. I respond to attacks on my posts in like manner.

  Why not actually read posts instead of jumping in on threads trying to resurrect another agenda because your nose was bloodied in other threads?

  For example, Restrangled was 'butally honest' in her opening thread to me. Why are you not attempting to speak to her about this matter, or is her 'brutal honesty' fine because it is directed at myself?

  Shaking head.....sometimes I think that many of you would not recognize a principle if it landed on you from very great height. Maybe a taste of 'brutal honesty' is really what is needed!

  HS
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  by hillary_step in

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  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  Restrangled,

  Hillary...all you have to do is be nice. Are you capable of that? take it or leave it. Stop the nasty responses....it does not bode well.

  Can you not see your hypocrisy? It is stunning that you can be so ignorant...that is what really does not bode well. It is almost as if two people were posting, not one. Does your dog type?

  YOU came on this thread unannounced and insulted ME. I merely turned these insults back on yourself and you then start whining about my 'nastiness'.

  What you should be doing is apologizing for your blatant display of double standards, not advising me as to how I should behave.

  HS
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  by hillary_step in

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  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  Restrangled,

  Really sweet heart, I have difficulty belieiving your statements about your wife. Maybe you have been left, and denied and are fighting like a dog...

  lol...before you can try humor to slide your posts on, you must discover wit. Just a little advice. ;)

  I have difficulty belieiving your statements about your wife.

  Then you have called Cognizant Dissonace a liar. I will leave it to her to sort that out. I proved you a hypocrite, she will prove you a liar.

  I am not sure what has happened to you today, distemper playing up?

  HS
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  by hillary_step in

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  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  hillary_step

  John,

  Can't agree with you here. Not saying that Hillary doesn't call things as he sees them, which I admire, but the dislike for him by some posters isn't so simple to quantify.

  Problem is John, this 'dislike' is all lost on me as washes over me. I know that you only have my word for it, but I am not a liar. Most of what I 'do' here these days is just entertainment of one sort or the other. I would not be here otherwise.

  Some types of personalities simply don't mesh. Some types of personalities draw polarized responses. Now, before someone says that online personalities aren't relative because they differ from in person personalities, I'll point out that on line personalities is all I'm talking about here, and all that is relevant to the vast majority of posters here.

  You are quite wrong in your analysis here. The majority of posters do do NOT take personalities expressed here as just being 'online'. My oft repeated advise is that this is exactly how they SHOULD take them, but most here take the personalities presented here very seriously. This thread today is an example. Who Are You's thread another. Restrangled's post a perfect example. Bring the Light shaking with rage as his treatment here yet another. And this is just TODAY'S offering.

  I can supply hundreds of examples that prove your summation to be incorrect.

  HS
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  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
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  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  Cog,

  I buy you a coffee and then get all this. That is what I call a cheap date....lol

  It just boggles the mind how posters such as "Who Are You" and "Restrangled" can hurl thinly veiled insults at H.S. and then when he calls them on it and returns tit for tat, he is made out to be the vilest of villains, with ridiculous accusations and insinuations being hurled, while the flingers of such excrement chide him and urge him to be "nice" . Disgusting display of hypocrisy at it's finest, IMO.

  I think that this is what puzzles me more than anything. These posters just cannot see their own hypocrisy even when it is pointed out in baby steps. And yes, to an honest and 'straight' person it is a disgusting display.

  As to JGnat, well, she is a very clued in woman who knows the difference between sentimentality, attention seeking and REAL support. She has dealt and is dealing with more problems than most on this Board and is doing so with dignity and privately. You know a little about suffering without a fanfare too Cog. Good on you both!

  HS
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  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am a new to posting on this board though i have been actively reading your posts the past while and i thank some of you for the interesting viewpoints that you have verbalized and that i have enjoyed thinking on.

  i am still an active jw, in fact an elder of 20 years standing hence my need to limit information about my personal circumstances.

  i have served in a number of countries in europe as a pioneer and elder over the past three decades.

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  hillary_step

  Owen,

  How long were you in the org?

  As a gung ho believer? Around ten years. As person hoping that the sky-god would bring change, another five As a duplicitous bastard waiting for my wife to see the light, another eight years or so.

  The best thing that I ever did was to show patience. Eventually my beautiful wife saw the light and decided to leave too. It was frustrating waiting for her to throw down the shackles of her numerous decades as a JW, but it was worth every frustrating moment to have her with me. It also allowed me to plan financially and in other ways for our exit.

  I have never condemned those who stay in hoping that their family will come along with them Jim Whitney wrote an excellent thread on this Board as to how to do this, taken from his own experience. These situations are often complex, and too many families break up imo from a badly planned exit from the WTS.

  Another sadly missed poster, ExPatBrit wrote one of the most important posts on this Board as to how to 'fade' successfully a few years ago which tackled the importance of leaving on ones own terms which my planning allowed me to, and is well worth searching for.

  Cheers - HS

  HS