Well don't I feel a fool. One thing about trolls thay never come back in the same incarnation.
hippikon
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new, nowhere to turn, ashamed & afraid
by azzazel inhullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.
i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .
during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.
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Now that you aren't a JW anymore....
by Flowerpetal ini was just wondering about most of you guys.
since you aren't jws anymore, what are your beliefs now?
have you rejected the bible as a whole?
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hippikon
Intro: These are very breif notes. They do need expanding. What I ment was it would be arrogant to think we know all there is to know about Physics and Nature. JWs are suposed to be the most "United" in there beliefs but even amoung JWs there are variations on Gods personality! At the end of they day we pick a religion that suits us or gets us out of a hole.
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Now that you aren't a JW anymore....
by Flowerpetal ini was just wondering about most of you guys.
since you aren't jws anymore, what are your beliefs now?
have you rejected the bible as a whole?
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hippikon
If anything I am now Atheist. If by some chance God does exist he certainly doesn’t get involved or interfere and there fore may as well not exist. Listed below are some reasons
1) At all levels of life from microbes to man it is dog eat dog. Eat or get eaten. This is the way nature works and always has. In other words nature is a bitch
2) The Bible just doesn’t cut it as an infallible message from God to his creation. (Too ambiguous, vague and open to interpretation) besides what seem to be contradictions as to creation and the flood.
3) Just because we don’t understand a process ie Life, the big bang, etc doesn’t mean we have to invent an explanation ie God It would seem there are laws of physics we still don’t know or understand. It would be arrogant to think otherwise.
4) Every ones understanding of God is different. According to there own desires. There fore god is man made. (and man proceeded to make god in his image) The same mind that creates God has the ability to manufacture self-perceptions, dreams, and imaginings even cures for illnesses and cause illnesses."But it does move"
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new, nowhere to turn, ashamed & afraid
by azzazel inhullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.
i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .
during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.
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hippikon
Something the elders should always remember
"There but for the grace of god go I"
Feel free to send an email. I havent posted my full story. There is still a lot I keep confidential.
"But it does move"
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new, nowhere to turn, ashamed & afraid
by azzazel inhullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.
i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .
during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.
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hippikon
Azzazel
i'm not easily fooled by appearences
thats not my real picture.To be a little more serious. My situation was also life and death. I chose life and left the org. Started making my own decisions and havent looked back
"But it does move"
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Where some JW find their clothes ?
by chasson inin all the congregation that i've passed my jw's life, i've found.
a lot of jw wearing some particular clothes like the picture.
of "you can live forever...".
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hippikon
Why you want to buy some?
I used to allways shop at thrift shops. It was all I could aford on a cleaners salery.
"But it does move"
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new, nowhere to turn, ashamed & afraid
by azzazel inhullo everybody i'm new here, even though i've been lurking now for several months.. i have to say how afraid i am to post, afraid and ashamed but i feel if i dont tell my story, i honestly dont know what may happen to me or my children if they lose me, right now i feel like i've got nowhere left to turn and have my doubts about this place as well.. i know my story will shock you but i cant keep it in any longer.
i am recently disfellowshipped for immorality, the subject of a kingdom hall witch -hunt and subsequent congregational humiliation, .
during the process of the judicial committee meetings and proceedings no consideration was given to my real human circumstances nor to the spirit of survival nor human nature nor that of a mother seeking to protect her children from lack of basic fundamentals such as food, shelter and clothing.
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hippikon
Hi Azazel
I like the name. It has special sigificance for me. It was one I thought of using myself. Glad I escaped your um Council. But I gues in time youll see my faults too.
Its a great place to be and it is realy freedom of speech. I think most can relate to your experiences and I think all in all you will mostley get support. I sense you feel a bit raw at the moment but this is a great place to heal. Some on the board get a bit abrasive but it does help you to heal and toughen up.
Keep up the communication. Were here for you.
"But it does move"
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Apostates' Night Out
by Gopher inhey all,.
i just got home from the very first minnesota evil apostates night (mean).
we wonder if similar apostate nights out have been held elsewhere.. we daringly held this mini-convention (8 in attendance) at a smoky bar somewhere in minneapolis.
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hippikon
Its a shame most who pull away from the org just drift away. I have some freinds who left all they want to do is forget. Its like it's too painfull to remember. You can see they have big holes in there life.
I'd love to get on the turps with you guys one day. Maybe I'll get a chance in the future.
"But it does move"
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To Loyal Witnesses: Please Listen!
by metatron inif you are a loyal, zealous witness, please listen to me.. i'm going to tell you straight from my heart, right out of.
my hard-won personal experience, how to avoid unhappiness.. here it is:.
don't bet on games you can't win.. let me illustrate.
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hippikon
All of my lifes decisions were based scriptural/WATCHTOWER principles. I was constantly told I was happy doing all this stuff. The feild service, the meeting parts, the study preparation bla bla bla. (After all Gods People are a happy people - The Bible/WATCHTOWER Says So!)The fact is I wasn't bloody happy. I was f--king miserable.
I didn't get happy till I started making my own decisions!
Its like getting out of jail!
"But it does move"
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IS IT ALL BAD?
by hannibal inafter being on this site for about a month now,i have read many if not all "bashing" j/ws for obvious reasons.i am starting to come to the conclusion that this religion i was raised in is just another religion.but to bring a "thread" of objectivity,i was wonder what you all thought of of the religous freedom j/ws have fought for.i'm reading a book now called 'judging jehovahs witnesses'.some quotes:.
"i think the jehovahs witnesses ought to have an endowment in view of the aid which they give in solving the legel problems of civil liberties"--harlan fiske stone,u.s.
supreme court.
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hippikon
Ironic isn't it. Two laws one for insiders and one for outsiders.
My wife is Catholic. I took her to her church services the other week an I could see the looks of disgust from the elders. My comment was "I practice freedom of religion and freedom of speech in my house." (My wife is very pleased actualy - I bought her a birthday present and cake for the first time the other day).
Even the WTS encourages freedom of speech in the family so why not in the Congrgation. Afer all its one big happy family isn't it?
"But it does move"
Galileo