Hi, T.F.
I had never considered that that explanation is somewhat similar to the "Trinity."
I think that it is an interesting viewpoint.
Jehovah's Witnesses sometimes drive themselves into a corner by their own explanation.
hi, my first post here.
i stumbled across something in the watchtower 1981 magazine (in my wbts library cd) showing the faithful and discreet slave is "a composite individual".
i have never seen this anywhere before, but the wbts set-up of the fds as "a composite individual" looks somewhat similar to the trinity of three divine persons in one true god.
Hi, T.F.
I had never considered that that explanation is somewhat similar to the "Trinity."
I think that it is an interesting viewpoint.
Jehovah's Witnesses sometimes drive themselves into a corner by their own explanation.
this must have been mentioned before,but now reniaa is back it could be fun.. if jw's are even part way to the truth,and all other religions are false, then they must have a doctrine that is unique to them,given by holy spirit, but plainly taught in the bible,without resorting to fancifull exegesis and bouncing around from verse to verse out of context etc.. what is that doctrine?.
love.
wobble.. .
Reniaa.
You said like this.
Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
how can we do will of the father if we do not see him as the one true God and mix him up with Jesus and holy spirit making the bible unclear?
I cannot understand well why the first word "will" is bold.
The first word "will" expresses "will" of future tense, and the next "will" expresses "will" of the noun.
Although that meaning is completely different for me ...
this must have been mentioned before,but now reniaa is back it could be fun.. if jw's are even part way to the truth,and all other religions are false, then they must have a doctrine that is unique to them,given by holy spirit, but plainly taught in the bible,without resorting to fancifull exegesis and bouncing around from verse to verse out of context etc.. what is that doctrine?.
love.
wobble.. .
Hi, reniaa.
I cannot take responsibility for others' words and deeds.
It is only my words and deeds that I can take responsibility.
Even if I have something to tell you, I cannot express correctly in English.
In a certain case, I cannot express at all.
Please read in my awkward English the thing which I would like to tell to you.
You have the freedom you do not reply to an impolite person.
Impolite people are in this forum.
A certain person made a fool of the name of "possible-san."
Before I do nothing to that person ...
You can reply sincerely, only to the person who is kind to you.
If you are sincere, they also return a reply sincerely.
But since you are not sincere, everyone who is here is angry. (I think so.)
this must have been mentioned before,but now reniaa is back it could be fun.. if jw's are even part way to the truth,and all other religions are false, then they must have a doctrine that is unique to them,given by holy spirit, but plainly taught in the bible,without resorting to fancifull exegesis and bouncing around from verse to verse out of context etc.. what is that doctrine?.
love.
wobble.. .
Hi, OUTLAW.
Possible-San..You have tried very hard to communicate with Reniaa..It is difficult when you are dealing with a very dishonest person..You are doing it translating Japanese into English........English is our first language here and we can`t communicate with Reniaa either!..LOL!!
Yeah.
I think that I am doing my best although I do not speak English at all.
I cannot express correctly the matter or feeling which I would like to say, in English.
this must have been mentioned before,but now reniaa is back it could be fun.. if jw's are even part way to the truth,and all other religions are false, then they must have a doctrine that is unique to them,given by holy spirit, but plainly taught in the bible,without resorting to fancifull exegesis and bouncing around from verse to verse out of context etc.. what is that doctrine?.
love.
wobble.. .
reniaa.
possible san I attack trinity itself not the men who preach it, trinity whatever you believe on it - is not biblical, show me one scripture that denotes trinity (not Jesus divinity this is not trinity!)? since about 99% of christianity follows the false teaching of trinity we have to make sure people know it is FALSE and unbiblical.
Have you replied to me, after understanding the meaning of my comment exactly?
What does this mean, "trinity whatever you believe on it - is not biblical"?
I said to you as follows.
"I myself do not believe the Trinity, and I also deny a fundamentalism interpretation.
Therefore, I have not complained of the justification of the Trinity to you from a Trinitarian's viewpoint."
Your explanation "I attack trinity itself" is a "lie" (falsehood), although you may be not thinking so.
It shows that you are still trying to deceive people.
You avert your eyes from truth and are continuing attacking a "fake."
I think that your expression "show me..." is not well.
The right expression is "show me, please."
Furthermore, I am not a Trinitarian.
And I explained to you that I had denied the fundamentalism interpretation.
Therefore, I cannot use the Scriptures by the intention to prove that the Trinity doctrine is the right dogma.
The point in which you are wrong is not whether the Trinity is "FALSE and unbiblical."
It is wrong that you attacked "what is not the Trinity" and have described it as the "Trinity" persistently.
And it is a dishonest and insincere act.
And you do not repent such a dishonest attitude but show an impolite attitude to Christendom obstinately.
this must have been mentioned before,but now reniaa is back it could be fun.. if jw's are even part way to the truth,and all other religions are false, then they must have a doctrine that is unique to them,given by holy spirit, but plainly taught in the bible,without resorting to fancifull exegesis and bouncing around from verse to verse out of context etc.. what is that doctrine?.
love.
wobble.. .
reniaa.
Since I explained to you exactly, if you have not ignored my remark, you know it.
I myself do not believe the Trinity, and I also deny a fundamentalism interpretation.
Therefore, I have not complained of the justification of the Trinity to you from a Trinitarian's viewpoint.
It is enough if you believe in the only God.
There is no necessity that you attack people who believes the Trinity.
It is not the true Trinity doctrine which you say as the "Trinity" repeatedly, and you are attacking it (Fake).
It is extremely foolish, watching from the third party, that you indicate "what is not the Trinity", and call it the "Trinity", and you are attacking it (Fake).
It is not the way of investigating truth clearly.Therefore, I am saying to you "Stop such a way."
Although I was teaching it to you kindly repeatedly, you cannot understand it.
this must have been mentioned before,but now reniaa is back it could be fun.. if jw's are even part way to the truth,and all other religions are false, then they must have a doctrine that is unique to them,given by holy spirit, but plainly taught in the bible,without resorting to fancifull exegesis and bouncing around from verse to verse out of context etc.. what is that doctrine?.
love.
wobble.. .
Although there are people who teach us the wrong things and confuse us, the Trinity which Jehovah's Witnesses state is not the true Trinity doctrine.
Why do I have to say the same thing repeatedly?
You, the defender of Jehovah's Witnesses,
Stop using the word "Trinity"!
I think that you who cannot understand it are foolish even if I say the same thing repeatedly.
this must have been mentioned before,but now reniaa is back it could be fun.. if jw's are even part way to the truth,and all other religions are false, then they must have a doctrine that is unique to them,given by holy spirit, but plainly taught in the bible,without resorting to fancifull exegesis and bouncing around from verse to verse out of context etc.. what is that doctrine?.
love.
wobble.. .
The following is an article in my website.
My comment (my own opinion) is not written.
http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/pages/jw/prophets.html
The defender of JW should see the "fact" soon.
this must have been mentioned before,but now reniaa is back it could be fun.. if jw's are even part way to the truth,and all other religions are false, then they must have a doctrine that is unique to them,given by holy spirit, but plainly taught in the bible,without resorting to fancifull exegesis and bouncing around from verse to verse out of context etc.. what is that doctrine?.
love.
wobble.. .
Is Reniaa still an unbaptized publisher?
She cannot defeat the people of this forum, if she is a freshman.
For example, I have the career of "a quarter of a century" as Jehovah's Witnesses.
Probably, other people may be the same as it, or they may have the career more.
Then, they are ex-Jehovah's Witnesses now.
i'm watching some youtube video's from newagegamer3018.
before in my research...i watched some of his video's when he was a jw apoligist.
now he has da'd himself and is defending the scriptures, not jw's.. this is the first time ever that i actually am starting to think/beleive that jesus and jehovah are the same thing.
I read each opinion and view of many persons, and I feel that a fundamentalism view is really harmful.
It is clear that Jehovah's Witnesses do not understand the Trinity doctrine correctly.
But even so, I think it wrong that people in the 21st century have the outdated faith (Trinity).
I feel that the view "YHWH is Jesus" (the God of the Old Testament is Jesus) is especially harmful more than the doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses.
When people say such in the view of fundamentalism ...