Posts by possible-san

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What did Jesus mean: "I Am?"

by wannabe in

what did jesus mean "i am?".

one must marvel at the lack of fear, and respect, false religious teacher's display, today, as they twist and warp jehovah god's marvelous word of truth to support their obvious, warped versions of the truth of god's word.

trying to convince others that jesus was god jehovah in the flesh; while jehovah himself contradicted that belief, as did his own son.

possible-san

Well, I interpret symbolically the meaning of "I AM."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3M6cboaOKk

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Major flaw in the Society's 1914-Gentile Times doctrine

by peacedog in

one of the major flaws (i say one because there are many) in the society's '1914-gentile times' doctrine is an oft-overlooked one.

very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.

as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.

possible-san

Hi, peacedog.

Once we establish that the Society LIES, which we have done, then doctrine no longer matters. As a LIAR ORGANIZATION, they cannot be "God's Organization", regardless of what doctrines they do or do not teach.

Exactly! (standing ovation and thunderous applause)
Your explanation is completely right/correct.

I think that you can persuade him/her (an active JW), if he/she has "good faith."
Serious JW dislikes a lie/dishonest most, IMO.

That said, however, the fact that Rutherford went so far as to change the end date of the Gentile Times shows how important it is to Watchtower doctrine that the First World War lines up with the end of the Gentile Times. This should not be overlooked.

Yeah, absolutely.

But, well, in my opinion, each JW does not necessarily attach importance to 1914. (I think)
Possibly, ordinary JWs do not think that 1914 is important, IMO.
Rather, the Organization (GB) does so, IMO.
It is because that year (1914) is what corroborates their"authority."

And furthermore, even the GB has said like this. (Although this is a lie)

*** w94 5/1 p. 15 par. 7 Kingdom Proclaimers Active in All the Earth ***
As the Gentile Times neared their end, newspapers were used to publish Bible sermons delivered by Brother Russell. Their primary emphasis was not on the year 1914 but, rather, on the purpose of God and the surety of its fulfillment.

I think that it is more persuasive for active JWs, when you say "they told a lie" rather than you say, "that (the Gentile Times) is important", IMO.

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Anyone here enjoy Opera?

by beksbks in

one of my favorites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu5tkdcza-m. and the ultimate piece and performer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vaepwrchdc&feature=related.

possible-san

Samson & Delilah - Prima Vocaloid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X3sARqX00

Opera, Maria and Draco (Final Fantasy 6)
"Aria di Mezzo Carattere" Sung by Svelta Krasteva
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/entertainment/191882/1/Final-Fantasy-VI-Opera-with-real-voice-in-English
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/entertainment/172313/1/Opera-Maria-and-Draco-Final-Fantasy-6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmmHv34dMrM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaavtbeP2g0

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Major flaw in the Society's 1914-Gentile Times doctrine

by peacedog in

one of the major flaws (i say one because there are many) in the society's '1914-gentile times' doctrine is an oft-overlooked one.

very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.

as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.

possible-san

Hi, peacedog.

Thank you for your reply.

Rutherford attempted to circumvent the problem by changing the end date for the Gentile Times.

I think that this part is, probably, the most persuasive.
Regardless of the prophetic issue, I think that you have revealed their "improbity."

I did not realize until now that Rutherford has said at the Cedar Point convention in 1922 as follows.

"The gentile times under the supervision of the god of this world ended August 1, 1914."
http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/pages/jw/adv.html

This is an evident lie.

I appreciate your education.
Thanks.

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Major flaw in the Society's 1914-Gentile Times doctrine

by peacedog in

one of the major flaws (i say one because there are many) in the society's '1914-gentile times' doctrine is an oft-overlooked one.

very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.

as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.

possible-san

VM44.

Well, the part which I showed in the red color text is an emphasis part by the Watch Tower society.

25 years ago, our friends and I (Japanese JWs) knew this material well.
Therefore, I said, "for hardworking JWs, it does not matter."

*** w72 6/1 pp. 351-352 Questions From Readers ***

Questions From Readers
Why did the beginning of World War I not coincide with the early part of October, when the “appointed times of the nations” ended?—U.S.A.
As has often been shown in this magazine, the conferring of kingship over the nations on Christ Jesus took place in 1914 C.E., at the expiration of the “appointed times of the nations” or the Gentile Times. (Luke 21:24; Dan. 4:16, 17, 31, 32) Those “appointed times” began 2,520 years earlier, after the destruction of Jerusalem in 607 B.C.E. and the assassination of the Jewish governor Gedaliah. The murder of Gedaliah in the month of Tishri (September/October) (“at the seventh new moon,” Byington translation) prompted those Jews left remaining in the land of Judah to flee. (Jer. 41:1, 2; 43:2-7) By the time the fearful Jews fled to Egypt it must have been at least the middle of Tishri, to allow enough time for the events mentioned in the Bible as taking place between the assassination and the flight. (Compare Jeremiah 41:4, 10–42:7.) This would place the start of the Gentile Times about Tishri 15, 607 B.C.E.
At the end of the Gentile Times, about Tishri 15 (October 4/5), 1914 C.E., Revelation 11:15 was fulfilled: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ.” By enthroning his Son Jesus Christ, Jehovah God took his power to rule as King over the world of mankind. The rulership of the great Adversary, Satan the Devil, was due to end.
Being the ‘ruler of the world’ of mankind alienated from God, Satan certainly did not want to see the Kingdom take full control of earth’s affairs. (John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11) Over nineteen centuries earlier he maneuvered matters in such a way that, had it not been for divine intervention, Herod the Great would have killed the infant Jesus. (Matt. 2:13) Similarly, even before the birth of the heavenly kingdom, Satan readied himself and his demons for an attack. This is symbolically described at Revelation 12:3-5, where we read: “Another sign was seen in heaven, and, look! a great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns and upon its heads seven diadems; and its tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth. And the dragon kept standing before the woman who was about to give birth, that, when she did give birth, it might devour her child. And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was caught away to God and to his throne.”
It should not be surprising, then, that World War I broke out about two months before the end of the Gentile Times, and hence before the birth of the symbolic “son” or heavenly kingdom. Satan the Devil did not need to wait until after kingship over the nations had been placed in the hands of Jesus Christ to maneuver the nations into a large-scale war. The start of that sanguinary conflict was doubtless part of his scheme to blind persons to what had happened in the heavens in fulfillment of Bible prophecy and also, if at all possible, to hinder the Kingdom from ruling over the world of mankind.

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Major flaw in the Society's 1914-Gentile Times doctrine

by peacedog in

one of the major flaws (i say one because there are many) in the society's '1914-gentile times' doctrine is an oft-overlooked one.

very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.

as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.

possible-san

Well, in my opinion, for hardworking JWs, it does not matter.

25 years ago, when I was an active JW, my friends (Japanese JWs) knew that well.

*** w72 6/1 p. 351 Questions From Readers ***
Questions From Readers
Why did the beginning of World War I not coincide with the early part of October, when the “appointed times of the nations” ended?—U.S.A.

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I find it curious that these two look so much alike.... hehe

by AK - Jeff in

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possible-san

Ha!, idiot peacedog.

I think that what I introduced suits that explanation, IMO.
That is, "look so much alike ..."

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I find it curious that these two look so much alike.... hehe

by AK - Jeff in

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possible-san

AK - Jeff

Do you dislike the person in that video?
Since I thought that his "appearance/looks" in that video is alike, I placed here.
(Probably he is famous in the United States. And, probably, he also is a representative of God like Russell.)

Well, what idiot thinks that I connected him with Alfred Russel Wallace?

If you complain so much, you should have explained in detail first.
You merely placed two photos without explanation.