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  Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

  by snowbird in

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  http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

  i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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  possible-san

  Hi, Leolaia.
  
  I respect your learning.
  And I appreciate your close investigation.
  
  But I feel that I may have to say to you.
  First, you should explain exactly to people that that text which you have quoted from LXX is "translation into English from Greek."
  
  And if people compare in the Greek original, people will understand that the Apostle Paul is not quoted strictly each time.
  When he quoted from LXX in many cases, he quoted having put the words in another way, or translating freely (paraphrase).
  
  Therefore, the word of the Old Testament and the word of the New Testament are not necessarily strictly in agreement as you showed.
  He quoted the Scriptures freely and applied freely.

  Moreover, according to my understanding, the Apostle Paul understood that Jesus is "I AM."
  Therefore, it is natural that he applies the words about "I AM" (Jehovah) of the Old Testament to Jesus.
  But it can be strictly said so in a "symbolic meaning."

  If you thought literally "Jehovah is Jesus", when Jesus comes to the earth, it means "There is no God in Heaven."
  I think that it is an absurd view.
  
  Jehovah's Witnesses will surely make a fool of such views.
  And they will make a fool of people who gather to JWD.

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  Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

  by snowbird in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

  i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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  sacolton.

  Possible-San, sincerely , how is Jesus Christ a symbol?

  I think that I have explained although it was simple.
  
  I quoted from the Scriptures.
  
  And I also explained that the address of my website is that meaning.
  That is, it is that "God presence within you."
  
  In that meaning, Jesus is "I AM."
  And "I AM" means the name of Jehovah as you know.

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  Scan of February 2009

  by RR in

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  here a scan of the february 2009 kingdom ministry.

  enjoy.

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/mqzn9l.

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  possible-san

  Mr. RR, thank you.
  
  I downloaded it.
  I always appreciate to you.

  And to your marvelous job.
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  Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

  by snowbird in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

  i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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  CHILD.

  How is Jesus Christ a symbol? I do not wish to be argumentative, but this makes no sense to me. As a Christian, I allow the bible to teach who the Father is and who Jesus is. If you don't believe in the historical Jesus, who do think he is?

  First, I told you as follows.
  "When I was active Jehovah's Witnesses, if someone asked me in this way, I suspected first, "Is that person's motive sincere?""

  At this point, I felt that this "question" of yours is not sincere.
  Therefore, this time, I infer that it is not necessary to reply to your question earnestly.

  I think it completely wrong to interpret the Scriptures "literally."
  And for me, it is low-level talk.

  Well, I myself am a person who believes in God deeply.
  I have not said a word "There is no God."

  The difference between you and me is only that I interpret the Scriptures always symbolically and figuratively.

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  Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

  by snowbird in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

  i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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  snowbird.

  There are people who believe like you mostly.
  But that view is not related to teaching of the Trinity.

  And the society (Jehovah's Witnesses) is fighting with people who think like you.
  Probably, Jehovah's Witnesses will defeat you.

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  Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

  by snowbird in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

  i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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  Hi, CHILD.

  For me, Jesus is the symbol itself.
  Therefore, while you stick to "historical Jesus", you cannot understand my explanation.

  Also for the Apostle Paul, Jesus was symbolic.
  Therefore, he has seldom mentioned "historical Jesus."

  For example, the Apostle Paul said like this.

  "which is Christ in you, the hope of glory."
  Col 1:27. (NKJV)
  
  "Christ in your hearts is your only hope of glory."
  Col 1:26. (TLB)

  That is, it is "God presence within you".
  This word is the address of my website.
  http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/

  I have said that Jesus is "I AM" in this meaning.
  
  But I do not have the intention of forcing my view.
  I would like to only show now that it is not "Jehovah is Jesus," also in teaching of the Trinity.
  
  
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  Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

  by snowbird in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

  i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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  possible-san

  snowbird.

  You did not return a reply to my post as well as Mr. sacolton, either.

  Another connection that may not have been mentioned is Isaiah 63 and Revelation 19.
  Please step back and take a really good look at what has been presented here.

  I cannot understand well that you want what to say.
  Please explain that I understand more exactly.
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  Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

  by snowbird in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

  i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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  sacolton.

  I agree. No ordinary man can resurrect himself, but Jesus wasn't an ordinary man.

  You are only pouncing on my words.
  (I cannot express well in English. In Japanese, it is called "kotobajiri wo toraeru.")

  The word "man" does not have importance in that sentence of mine.
  You have ignored completely the part which I emphasized by Bold.

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  Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

  by snowbird in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

  i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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  possible-san

  Hi, CHILD.

  Please explain the following scriptures

  When I was active Jehovah's Witnesses, if someone asked me in this way, I suspected first, "Is that person's motive sincere?"
  I assume that your motive is sincere and I reply.

  I think that John 2:22 has a key point.

  “When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples called to mind that he used to say this; and they believed the Scripture and the saying that Jesus said.”
  - JOHN 2:22.(NWT)
  
  http://www.watchtower.org/e/bible/joh/chapter_002.htm#bk22

  The part which I showed in the red letters is written by "passive voice" in the original word.
  Therefore, that part is translated by passive voice also in English.

  That is, it has suggested that he was resurrected by other someone.

  Why, also, does the bible say Jesus was worshipped?

  I say repeatedly, "It is wrong to interpret the Scriptures literally."
  It is my view.
  I said that Jesus is "I AM" in a symbolic meaning.

  If it is a person who believes the Trinity, he will explain "It is because Jesus was God."

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  Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

  by snowbird in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

  i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

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  sacolton.

  I may have to say to you.
  You have not replied to my post until now.
  Even if I teach some information, you have not appreciated to me.

  John 2:18-19 "Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
  
  Everyone agrees that the "temple" is his body. Now, who is going to raise it up? Jesus said HE will raise it up.

  I think that your view is very nonsense. We had better think by common sense.
  If that man dies, the man himself cannot resurrect himself. I say repeatedly that "the Father" and "the Son" are two separate persons, also in teaching of the "Trinity."Therefore, "the Father" (Jehovah) resurrected him. possible
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