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  What's the latest status on ol' Brother Prince Rogers Nelson?

  by NoRegrets in

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  2. entertainment

  i was last affiliated with a minneapolis area congregation a few years back.

  we saw prince and the larry graham entourage at a sunday meeting once and at many assemblies and conventions.

  i know he was affiliated with a congregation in a city named chanhassen at one time.

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  he is in our town this month and when I pulled up the stage and seating it shows his stage in the form of his insignia, looks like a convoluded cross or egyptian symbol
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  Comments from a real JW about the killing of apostates watchtower. You will be shocked..

  by Hairyhegoat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a very good find from another jw only web site i have access to... hey i just found this on a link of my mom's that she is "friends" with, yes, still a jw...anyway, i had to copy/paste it so you could all see, thought it was a bit hilarious to see how they blatantly speak of keeping info from "outsiders.

  " i did not copy the name of the person since that is not my point and i am not that disrespectful, but i did copy their comment...they were discussing the wt about killing all apostates and someone that was studying asked a question as to whether they all thought that was right or not, so here it is..............."james... although its a great article and very encouraging, as apostates do deserve to be murdered, it may not be such a good idea to reveal it our friend zeek at this moment.

  he may find it a tad over the top.

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  fake -- sounds like terrorist talk - indoctrinated???? Well to a degree -- isnt everyone in whatever form it may be, religion, schooling,freemasons, golf club, but to speak like this is not the way those in the org do.. this is too silly for words
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  Victoria, Australia: Report on Oct. 11th hearing involving Steven Unthank

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  victoria, australia: report on oct. 11th hearing involving steven unthank.

  (this report is from an anonymous xjw who attended the hearing.

  i had no plans to turn up to the court hearing as an observer, as in my experience, it can take several hearings and a number of months before any court case gets rolling.

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  Just a thought -

  the society fought this for quite awhile according to what I read - does anyone know if some elders have been relieved of their status in Australia lately?

  The reason I ask is that perhaps they stalled for time to rid themselves of those who may have issues .. any comments??
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  White horse of the Apocalypse... not Jesus??

  by In in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  revelation talks about four horses.

  the verses in nwt say a seal is opened, and four horses ride forth.

  the first is on a white horse.

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  Never thought of that about the bow - interesting
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  SURVEY: How many who are still "IN" are really out mentally (Do I need to put " S E X " in the Title to increase the number of hits on it?)

  by DesirousOfChange in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was quite a debate on another post about the increase/decrease throughout the wt history surrounding 1975 and subsequent time periods when ther have been major adjustments in doctrine.

  it was said that the stasticis from 1965-1985 do not reflect a massive defection, despite the failure of the wt's prophecy for the end of the wicked system of things by 1975. .

  i see the overlapping generation as another potention issue to cause fallout.

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  In but out on a lot of issues
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  White horse of the Apocalypse... not Jesus??

  by In in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  revelation talks about four horses.

  the verses in nwt say a seal is opened, and four horses ride forth.

  the first is on a white horse.

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  Didn't Jesus explain this in Matthew prior to Revelation being penned?

  The WTBTS links Matt 24:7 and REV 6:6 with the red horse, but the first white horse is not referred to by the WTBTS as Anti-Christ. why not? Jesus gave the run down in Matthew what will happen and revelation spells it out clearly for us - especially since The Lamb, Jesus is the only one to open the scroll with one of the four living creatures doing his bidding and the creature says "Come" to each of the horsemen... Does Jesus look at himself? Then gets on the horse, it does not say that, instead, there is already a rider on the horse

  Matt 24:4 and 5 -- many will mislead you saying " I am the Christ"-(can definitely be the white horse in Rev 6 :2 being the antichrist.. )

  Matt 24:7 -wars --(second horse fiery color-at Rev 6:4 ( slaughter) followed with famine and disease = black horse at Rev 6:5. Famine and disease usually follows all the wars being fought

  So I cant and do not follow the society's reasoning on this one at all.... religions are in turmoil today -with a lot saying their way is the way to Christ and listen to them - new age groups, etc...

  Anyone going to the hall agree with this logic of mine??? Just asking to see if I am off base here

  TL
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  What is the average cost to build a new Kingdom Hall

  by jworld in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was recently told that the average cost to build a new kingdom hall in the united states rural midwest region was $250,000.

  i was shocked to say the least.

  i remember when my childhood congregation built a new hall in 1989 for $60,000.

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  to build a house -- cost per sq ft is about 170.00 -250.00

  in my area anyway- used to be 65.00 sq ft and that only 15 yrs ago -- cost of bldg materials are exorbitant now.. but removing the cost of employees,due to the volunteers, that should drop the numbers to at least 100.00 sq ft.. say a 3000 sq ft bldg - $3 million - thats only about a 60 x50 size

  someone cld check the nbrs
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  Once again I say goodbye

  by mouthy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i find the board is getting very unfriendly of late.

  used to be great to be aboard.

  but the snipping that so many.

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  Mouthy:

  You were so happy to picket the assembly last weekend and excited that some folks listened to you.. just cause some do argue on the board, don't take it personally ... you don't know their mind set, maybe they are of the org and just trying to upset the applecart...life is like that, all you can do is try to placate some and laugh at others..

  all the best and return soon
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  After the victory in France, JW's take the streets in celebration.

  by NomadSoul in

  1. social
  2. humour

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nunm7rzhs_o.

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  I doubt it but it looks like they are having fun.... better than sitting around for 1 1/2 hours til the afternoon talks begin! Gets the adrenaline going
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  To ex-elders,that are df'ed, disassociated, fadeing and a wife thats still in please answer this.

  by TheLoveDoctor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  me ex elder, pioneer was very active but am trying to fade.

  one elder knows how i feel and i would not talk to anyone but him.

  i miss most meetings now.

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  Is there only the one elder who wants to meet with her? and where? in the hall? In a closed door room -- nope! Not alone! Who knows what the point of the meeting is?

  There will be 2 at least - will she feel intimidated? I think willy is right -- you are the spiritual head -- she is to defer any questions about you to you....... as you are not df'd or da'd....yet but then again, maybe they do want to talk to you and are using your wife to get to you and find out what is in your mind....

  I am not an elder but as a woman I would not allow myself to be put into that position without my hubby there -- witnesses, witnesses -- some can be real p.............