i have been a jw my whole life and i have never been able to get a clear answer on this question.
jw's do not believe that jehovah will intervene if someone is sick, dying or stopping a car crash.
they feel that jehovah is letting "this world" play out before he solves all of these problems.
We heard a story of how the Warwick property was purchased from a brother and sister just by luck one morning as they were just "thinking" of selling..... It had to be next to the whole parcel of land that was condemned and had massive contamination issues still ongoing........
Jehovah was given the credit.
Nuff said
stil no 2016 yearbook on jw.org, due to my fade i forgot the normal publishing date.
do you remember when the yearbook was released?
i'm just curious about the 2015 publisher data.
I know that most do not take a close look at the report... I like number crunching too and there is a lot of room for discrepancies that the pubs don't get.... I love to call issues to the fore, the society only gives the good reports on various countries and indicate increases to offset the obvious.
As you cant be negative in the hall -- I will tell any who listen as to what the real story is, but it falls on deaf ears.
The society has said it is doing God's work and therein lies the problem - they bring God into the picture and then they can do anything they want without question.
You wonder why Germany did what it did in the camps under Hitler???? the WTSociety is the same - people are under a spell.... it cannot easily be broken.
pdf.
the date of the letter is october but it was just released today, 2015-12-22..
That's the scam... Buy 2 large screen tvs - send the old one to a place in Africa -- I wont name it in case this hall is the only one sending it there... the new set up will cost several thousand dollars.
for all the newbies and angry ones of the forum and other forums, is it beneficial to show your stand to indicate that numbers are dropping in the org rather than increasing?
this is to those who are in a position to do so.
i know many cannot due to family members in the org.
For all the newbies and angry ones of the forum and other forums, is it beneficial to show your stand to indicate that numbers are dropping in the org rather than increasing? This is to those who are in a position to do so. I know many cannot due to family members in the org.
Or is it that if you do not report service for 3 months or more??
Just wondering..
Tks
so i have some relatives who work in warwick visiting us this week.
the visit has been largely drama free.
they came between meeting days, so the subject of going to the meetings never came up.. however, they have been talking about the "downsizing.".
When 75 came and went, we decided its time to start putting funds away for our later years, we got two good jobs with pension plans and had xtra monies placed in the plan over and above what was being deducted.
I, at that, time was the driving force behind this as my mate had been brought up in the truth and saw no need to do this.. so here we are, 40 years later......
Its so sad, that using God to fund their real estate and publishing empire, surely He has to be angry....
so i have some relatives who work in warwick visiting us this week.
the visit has been largely drama free.
they came between meeting days, so the subject of going to the meetings never came up.. however, they have been talking about the "downsizing.".
Sorry Cappytan but it is the way you said it--- "he says............ and I just took it as though your relatives was the one indicating the message. You did not mention the WTS in your message. All you say was "they need to..." from your relative.
It's good they are empathetic - we have some bethelites coming here and they have nothing and are in their 60's....
Sorry again
i have a bit of a dilemma that i would welcome advice on from the forum.. a brother in my congregation is giving evidence of having woken up - his comments and talks are usually slanted towards topics discussed here.
he is a former elder and is part of a group of other former elders and ministerial servants who i regularly overhear using terms i would expect to hear from ones knowing ttat.
he is a quite an effective teacher and will probably influence some.. however, in the past he has caused lots of problems for myself and others who i like (including another poster to this site who i have identified) and continues to be someone who i dislike intensely on a personal level.. his comments have been noticed by the body of elders and he is being watched.
stil no 2016 yearbook on jw.org, due to my fade i forgot the normal publishing date.
do you remember when the yearbook was released?
i'm just curious about the 2015 publisher data.
stil no 2016 yearbook on jw.org, due to my fade i forgot the normal publishing date.
do you remember when the yearbook was released?
i'm just curious about the 2015 publisher data.
Don't know, but it seems the seats are getting fuller at the hall -- granted we have had 4 pioneers move in, but those who were always missing at meetings seem to be wandering back most of the time now. No new ones with one exception.
so i have some relatives who work in warwick visiting us this week.
the visit has been largely drama free.
they came between meeting days, so the subject of going to the meetings never came up.. however, they have been talking about the "downsizing.".
He used the term "dead weight" - those who have given their lives to the work!!! What a terrible description from one who is to be so loving and kind.
Glean all the information you can... interesting
