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  Preaching? For what purpose? All JW's need to ask this question.

  by park ave boy in

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  what is the purpose of preaching if not for converts?.

  basically, preaching by the jw's is to make converts.

  this in itself implies that jehovah's witnesses believe that they alone have the only acceptable way to god and that everyone else is just not worthy.

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  It's an Amway organization - you are converted, then when you buy into that level, you go out and convert others to buy into that level to go out and convert others to buy into that level, the first level rises, and so on -- in the meanwhile, those converted contribute their time and money to get others and support the Amway corporation... its all business.....oldest in the world.... and because you believe in the product, you are hooked...

  Scientology is the same concept.. people are indeed sheep -- its almost in their nature..... they will follow someone with strength and apparent knowledge and look up to them as someone special.... unfortunately, low self esteem plays a big part in all of this, along with spiritual values that need to fill that void...
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  Some thoughts on the new midweek meeting

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
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  the new midweek meeting has been running for a month now.

  here are my thoughts on how it is going so far:.

  1) elders are looking frazzled from being on virtually every meeting and having to prepare unfamiliar formats for items.

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  I really find it easy -- I download the workbooks from the site, read with the reader -- click on scriptures that appear so quickly on the tablet, sing a song, watch the presentations - although live ones are doing the presenting( some times) .. and I don't have to do a thing....

  Why did the org think this was a good idea? Daydreaming during the meeting works for me.... I pre plan my next day and things I have to do since I don't have to think about deep subjects anymore...

  This is all sarcastic of course!

  and those black out presentations -- how does the sister grab the magazine or book out of the side pocket of her briefcase without looking... amazes me every time.. like pulling a gun out of a holster... just insane- its a miracle
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  Sign Out -- Simon

  by truthlover in

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  2. friends

  is there a glitch in the system again?

  i cannot sign out .

  tl.

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  truthlover

  Nope, didn't work when I signed out and then back on, must delete browsing history next
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  Sign Out -- Simon

  by truthlover in

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  is there a glitch in the system again?

  i cannot sign out .

  tl.

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  SWN

  Thanks I will note that when I close the program and come back on
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  Money to Org

  by truthlover in

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  2. friends

  i know this has been talked about to death but this week our loving faithful and discreet slave wrote a letter to all congregations in canada - keep 1500.00 a month in congregation expense account each month for the next three months coverage,(4500.00 in all) 5000.00 for any problems that may arise but send rest into them.

  so aren't we lucky to have 9500.00 still left in the account!

  the elder reading the letter indicated it was for the kingdom hall building work!!!.

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  Dark Knight - I agree - any xtra monies should be dolled out to those less fortunate -- charity begins at home - why knock on doors to bring people in when those already in are suffering. People need oil in their furnaces, food in their bellies, drives to medical help when no family car is available....maybe even buy them a winter beater with min insce coverage..........Does not make sense to me.... just give, give give to an org that is mis handling funds. Where is the good in all these buildings?? Do they really think brick and mortar will withstand the "day of Jehovah"? I don't think so..... all the most valuable things in those buildings will be destroyed... yet they keep on building and amassing real estate...... sickening
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  Money to Org

  by truthlover in

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  i know this has been talked about to death but this week our loving faithful and discreet slave wrote a letter to all congregations in canada - keep 1500.00 a month in congregation expense account each month for the next three months coverage,(4500.00 in all) 5000.00 for any problems that may arise but send rest into them.

  so aren't we lucky to have 9500.00 still left in the account!

  the elder reading the letter indicated it was for the kingdom hall building work!!!.

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  Shirley - re NYT --I read it, and I let it be known when the subject is brought up - do I get surprised looks!!

  Then I add, so what is the money being used for?? Leave them guessing..... had a really good talk to an x elder last week and he opened up with a lot of hidden elders meeting information from years ago that is still bothering him....

  He is still in along with wife but is livid that things are going on that 99.9 percent are not aware of ... I do get concerned when he goes off as he does have health issues now, some related to past experiences so once the outbursts have occurred, the issues are dropped for another time...
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  What Are Your "Senior Moments" Like?

  by compound complex in

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  dear friends:.

  i imagine by now we old timers have adjusted to the fact that we are getting older and, one day, will make our exit.

  are your "senior moments" ever a cause for worry to you?

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  James Mixon

  That is not too unusual, my mother and aunt would do the same, I would get every name of their sisters until they hit on mine -- comes from too many in the family usually

  So with 8 kids running around I would say your about normal
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  Sign Out -- Simon

  by truthlover in

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  is there a glitch in the system again?

  i cannot sign out .

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  Is there a glitch in the system again? I cannot sign out

  Thanks

  TL
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  Christianity and the Dead Sea Scrolls-Do the Scrolls Help us Understand Early Christianity?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i think most scholarship would agree with a positive answer to that question.

  but let's take a look for oursselves.

  geza vermes, in his excellent translation ( the complete dead sea scrolls in english-penguin.

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  Will we e ver know what was truly written down for " our instruction?"

  If you look at copyright laws and all the bible translations - a new bible has to be "significantly different from the orginal" to be copyrighted... so where does that leave us as to all the bibles floating around today?

  Do we really know what the ....... we are talking about, arguing about, worrying about? You could not copyright the scrolls, yet the many religions who claim to be Christian have their own bibles supposedly copied from the scrolls( or Catholic translations since they did obtain many of the scrolls)-- and over the centuries many translations have used the right to copyright their own bibles to support their own beliefs.

  Lordy, lordy!!
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  Money to Org

  by truthlover in

  1. jw
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  i know this has been talked about to death but this week our loving faithful and discreet slave wrote a letter to all congregations in canada - keep 1500.00 a month in congregation expense account each month for the next three months coverage,(4500.00 in all) 5000.00 for any problems that may arise but send rest into them.

  so aren't we lucky to have 9500.00 still left in the account!

  the elder reading the letter indicated it was for the kingdom hall building work!!!.

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  I know this has been talked about to death but this week our loving faithful and discreet slave wrote a letter to all congregations in Canada - keep 1500.00 a month in congregation expense account each month for the next three months coverage,(4500.00 in all) 5000.00 for any problems that may arise but send rest into them. so aren't we lucky to have 9500.00 still left in the account! The elder reading the letter indicated it was for the Kingdom hall building work!!!

  Has any other congs in Canada received this letter??

  No one dissented..