thanks for your help.. /newborn.
If someone made a list of "the greatest evidences that evolution never happened" and had never spent much time in the in the professional evolutionary literature on those points, they would be given stern lectures on "speaking on subjects without proper study" by the atheists /other evolutionists here.
Yet when it comes to atheists/ evolutionists speaking on creationism and the flood . . .
thanks for your help.. /newborn.
"Belief in the flood requires belief in hyper evolution:
Even granting a highly impractical number of representative pairs of various
"kinds" of animals, getting back up to the millions of current species requires
a level of evolution many thousands of times faster than required by the theory
of evolution, which Creationists reject as impossible."
You people must not read much in the way of actual creationist literature.
thanks for your help.. /newborn.
thanks for your help.. /newborn.
http://www.creationresearch.org
John K. Reed and John Woodmorappe
CRSQ Vol 39 No 1 June 2002
http://www.creationresearch.org/crsq/notes/39/39_1/Note0206.htm
the biotic message the book evolutionistsdon't want you to know about.available from http://www.creationresearch.org.
http://saintpaulscience.com/contents.htm.
prefacethe preface gives background about the book and its author.
Hooberus sees no point in wasting time on technical subjects with "such persons" as me and former posters on this board. However, he is the one that demonstrates the shallowest understanding in this debate, as he cannot even present the concepts on his own, all he does is engage in ad hominems, dodging the issue, and copy and pastes.
BTS
More precisely, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/170038/3147992/post.ashx#3147992 "I see no reason to spend any more lengthy time on technical subjects with such persons (the previous two evolutionists were responed to in detail)."
the biotic message the book evolutionistsdon't want you to know about.available from http://www.creationresearch.org.
http://saintpaulscience.com/contents.htm.
prefacethe preface gives background about the book and its author.
As a molecular biologist I can tell you this book's "science" is completely wrong, misleading and propagandistic.
Thats what you said earlier, when you admitted that you hadn't actually read the book -but only the preface that was posted.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/148600/2714534/post.ashx#2714534
the biotic message the book evolutionistsdon't want you to know about.available from http://www.creationresearch.org.
http://saintpaulscience.com/contents.htm.
prefacethe preface gives background about the book and its author.
Anyone who is interested, be sure not to miss ReMine's 2006 CRSQ paper which references the above "1974 paper"I don't have the time to read the above link. Could you please explain in your own words?
Sorry, but I've already spent more than enough of my time on the specific issue of ReMine's book and Haldane's dilemma here with evolutionists. Its the same pattern: 1. I recommend the book "The Biotic Message" 2. The evolutionists somehow come up with the sub-issue of haldane's dilemma 3. Then they (even though they have never yet read the book, or even heard of haldane's dilemma) proceed to speak confidently on the technical subject after only a few minutes "research". The evolutionist poster "Tetrapod.sapien" did it, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/100588/1733596/post.ashx#1733596 the evolutionist poster "Abaddon" did it, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/99116/1714811/post.ashx#1714811 and you did it. I see no reason to spend any more lengthy time on technical subjects with such persons (the previous two evolutionists were responed to in detail).
the biotic message the book evolutionistsdon't want you to know about.available from http://www.creationresearch.org.
http://saintpaulscience.com/contents.htm.
prefacethe preface gives background about the book and its author.
Anyone who is interested, be sure not to miss ReMine's 2006 CRSQ paper which references the above "1974 paper"
http://www.creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/43/43_2/2006v43n2p111.pdf
the biotic message the book evolutionistsdon't want you to know about.available from http://www.creationresearch.org.
http://saintpaulscience.com/contents.htm.
prefacethe preface gives background about the book and its author.
. Haldane's DilemmaFrom what I have read, Haldane's dilemma is not one in the real world. Natural selection is not the only cause for evolution, there is also genetic drift. We see this, even in human populations over brief periods of thousands of years-and (and humans are slow breeders). Also, Haldane assumes that fitness selection for favorable alleles is independent, and that therefore allele selection would have to be in sequence. But as we know, allele selection is not independent, and a variety of alleles can and do get selected and or deprecated in parallel-which also greatly speeds up the process as thousands of alleles can be subjected to fitness tests this way simultaneously. Also, it seems that Haldane's dilemma only deals with adaptation from existing alleles of existing genes, it does not addrees new advantageous mutations, which presumably would not cause new deaths in an existing genetic population.
All of these factors would greatly speed up the rate of adaptation of a genetic population.
Here is some info:
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2006/04/haldanes-dilemma-should-we-worry.php
BTS--who is a theist that has no issues with biological evolution.
Sorry Burn, but your above post is the same as your previous one on this subject (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/156756/2875842/post.ashx#2875842) which was made only 26 minutes after you said:"I've never heard of Haldane's Dilemma, mostly because I've never taken ID's arguments seriously, and always believed in evolution (well, for a very long time), even as a JW, I will investigate it, thanks." (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/156756/2875809/post.ashx#2875809)
Perhaps you should investigate a little longer before commenting.
See here for responses to objections: http://saintpaulscience.com/Haldane.htm
the biotic message the book evolutionistsdon't want you to know about.available from http://www.creationresearch.org.
http://saintpaulscience.com/contents.htm.
prefacethe preface gives background about the book and its author.
Definitely one of the best in print on the subject. Though not a biblical creationist book, it is recommend by the leading Biblical creationist organizaions for its valuable insights.
