cofty, if someone responded to all 31 of your threads and was able to demonstrate that your points do not show that evolution is a fact what would you do?
hooberus
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Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists
by cofty ini thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.
answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .
1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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hooberus
Caedes, Do you still hold to the following?:
If you cannot understand how adding a powerful creator god adds a hugely additional level of complexity to the natural universe then I don't know I can help you. We are not talking about maths we are talking about the concept. Of course any god sufficiently powerful to create universes has to be more complex than it's creation.
If so, by complex do you mean composed of "many parts" (Dawkins type definition)?
and, if so, What is the evidence that a supernatural God must be composed of "parts"???
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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hooberus
Caedes said:
If you cannot understand how adding a powerful creator god adds a hugely additional level of complexity to the natural universe then I don't know I can help you. We are not talking about maths we are talking about the concept. Of course any god sufficiently powerful to create universes has to be more complex than it's creation.
By complex do you mean composed of "many parts" (Dawkins type definition)
If so, What is the evidence that a supernatural God must be composed of "parts"???
Hooberus,
See my post 1968 where I answered your question.
here is that post
Hooberus,
I quite agree there is exactly zero empirical evidence for your god having any parts at all!
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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hooberus
Caedes said:
If you cannot understand how adding a powerful creator god adds a hugely additional level of complexity to the natural universe then I don't know I can help you. We are not talking about maths we are talking about the concept. Of course any god sufficiently powerful to create universes has to be more complex than it's creation.
By complex do you mean composed of "many parts" (Dawkins type definition)
If so, What is the evidence that a supernatural God must be composed of "parts"???
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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hooberus
I also suggested on the last page that there might be more options we can't conceive of yet: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/287553/2/Creationist-Should-Dismiss-Genesis-Quickly#5137293
This is a thread about Genesis (at leat initially). so how about what the Bible says as an option? Thats God did not "come into being" "from nothing" but instead has always existed?
"Thy throne is established of old: though art from everlasting." Psalm 93:2
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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hooberus
Apognophos said:
Believing that an intelligent being came into existence on its own, and then made us, is also absurd. But is it more absurd than the idea that a self-making universe produced intelligent beings who can in turn create things? Either way you are looking at intelligence forming from nothing.
We can't pretend that we have enough information to say which is more likely . . .
Why would those necessarily be the only options?
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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hooberus
Caedes said:
If you cannot understand how adding a powerful creator god adds a hugely additional level of complexity to the natural universe then I don't know I can help you. We are not talking about maths we are talking about the concept. Of course any god sufficiently powerful to create universes has to be more complex than it's creation.
By complex do you mean composed of "many parts" (Dawkins type definition)
If so, What is the evidence that a supernatural God must be composed of "parts"???
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900 Top Scientists Sign Statement Skeptical of Macro-Evolution
by Perry inwe are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural .
selection to account for the complexity of life.
careful examination of the .
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"Jehovah ALWAYS had/used an organization". How would you reply?
by EdenOne inin a recent meeting with elders, an argument was used to the effect that jehovah has always [= throughout history] used, or operated through, an organization; therefore, the wts must be that organization today, since god must be using one.
naturally, i know what arguments i've used to counter that argument.
but i'm interested in hearing yours.
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My father is dying
by peridotgreen inmy father, who has alzheimers, is dying now (he's 85).
i saw him today - he weaves in and out.
hasn't recognized me for a long time but was usually glad for the company.
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hooberus
I'm sorry for what you are going through. A month and a half ago my dad passed on (he was 85 as well).
We lived together for the last 7 years. I'm thankful for time that we had together and that he was blessed to have his mind.
We were never JWs.
I am thankful that I was able to share about who Christ is, and what Christ did with my dad. Just as we had in the past we said goodby, -only this time it will be a little longer until we are reuinted.
My grandmother had alzheimers before she died. I think that they can know whats going on more than we realize.
you are in my prayers.