Evolution is NOT atheism.
Without Evolution what are atheists left with to “explain” biological design, and complexity?
evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..
Evolution is NOT atheism.
Without Evolution what are atheists left with to “explain” biological design, and complexity?
evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..
Cofty wrote:
I have posted 40 threads of evidence for evolution, every one of them entirely in my own words based on countless hours of research and backed up by peer-reviewed papers.
Its interesting how much your early threads parallel articles from the “talk origins” pro evolution site. You never credit talk origins in your opening thread posts.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section4.html#protein_redundancy
Even some of the titles and order are similar:
“Protein functional redundancy” talk origins
(“Protein Finctional Redundancy”) Cofty
”DNA coding redundancy” talk origins
(“DNA Functional Redundancy”) Cofty
Your diagram for your ERV thread looks lifted from the talk origins article too.
No credit sited.
part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.
comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.
they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.
Cofty claims that Evolution is a fact, and that each of his threads are lines of evidence unequivocally supporting his claims.
Therefore the burden of proof is on him.
Response to some Evolutionist claims on the subject of this thread.
https://www.icr.org/article/viral-genome-junk-bunk
If Cofty (or anyone else) disagrees they are free to carefully point out any reasons why.
part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.
comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.
they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.
Response to some Evolutionist claims on this:
just before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..
i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!
) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.
Question Stephanie:
Did the complexity of your post require a designer?
just before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..
i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!
) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.
Stephanie wrote:
I remember going door to door and talking with an atheist. I was alone that day so I was free to speak a bit more sincerely and let the guy at the door express himself.
I don’t remember much about this conversation, nearly 20 years ago now. However, there was one simple message he conveyed that always stayed with me: You cannot use the following argument: “see how complex something is, surely it must have a designer” and not apply it to God himself. Surely God would be more complex than anything he created. So any escape clause you have for God not needing a creator of his own, you can apply the same thing to everything else.
I remember I purposefully decided to ignore this argument, but it kept coming back every now and then, until I could no longer ignore it 15 years later. That along with many other things brought me to the reality of our world.
i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.
answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .
1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?
Cofty wrote:
By your own admission you have never read a single science book in your entire life. Your never-ending posts on the subject betray a woeful depth of ignorance and a total lack of genuine curiosity.
Once again another condescending (and false) comment about someone that questions your claims.
i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.
answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .
1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?
Cofty wrote:
I see you have still to read your first science book Hooby (or any book that doesn't come with a set of crayons)
Cofty you make dogmatic assertions about Evolution, then when questioned one of your tactics is to respond with condescending statements about those who question you.
If evolution is such a fact why the need for such foul debate tactics?
i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.
answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .
1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?
From page 3.
Cofty wrote:
We have to be careful to commit 100% to methodological naturalism. In other words there is not a single detail in all of life's long history that cannot be explained without resorting to the supernatural. No arguments about complexity are permitted.
Can you elaborate on why “No arguments about complexity are permitted.” ?
And who decided this.
i intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.
there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.
there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.
In response to my point that: “The calculations by Yockey were not just for optimum sequences but for all possible functional sequences.” Cofty replied: “No it wasn’t.”
He simply asserted that I was wrong on this without providing any evidence whatsoever to substantiate his claim.
So Cofty do you have anything to back up your statement? You demand references from others, so where is yours?
Undocumented dogmatic assertions are one of Coftys common tactics here. Often he simply asserts whatever he wants, and we are all supposed to just believe it.