Posts by hooberus

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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy

by cofty in

i intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.

there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.

there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.

hooberus

You made a claim about "evolutionary history" in the OP. I asked a question specifically about this.

I believe my specific point is correct regarding how evolutionists create hypothetical trees.

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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy

by cofty in

i intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.

there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.

there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.

hooberus

Quote from Opening post

"If all living things evolved from a common ancestor then we can make a prediction about the differences between the Cytochrome C protein in different species. We would expect them to differ from each other in a predictable way that mirrors their evolutionary history.

This is exactly what we find.

The more distant any two species are from each other in evolutionary history the more differences there are in their amino acid sequences." End Quote

Where are you saying this "evolutionary history" is located? From what I read from evolutionist sources, evolutionists take living creatures, look at their similarities, and from these construct hypothetical evolutionary trees from them. The construction of these tree "phylogenies" is based on the assumption of evolutionary common descent and based on the prinicpal of coming up with the hypothetical tree that requires the least amount of changes not consistent with common descent [ie. the least amount of so called "convergence"].

Now, if evolution were somehow "known" to be true then such an exercise might be useful in coming up with the most likely version of evolutionary history, but it is not in itself an objective extant "evolutionary history" since its based on living creatures combined with the assumption of evolution.

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

hooberus

At the moment of belief you permanently receive the imputed righteousness of God and the free gift of Eternal life which can never be lost or forfeited.

21"But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:" Romans 3:21-24

47Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 6:47

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

hooberus

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6

"Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12

30"And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:30-31

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

hooberus

Ok, for the third time: What makes you think you need to be "saved"?
Can you answer that without using the Bible and specifically without using a WT spin on it?

Why does he need to answer it without using the Bible? The Bible is the foundation of the Christian worldview, telling us how we got here, why is there death and suffering, why there are sedimentary rock layers all over the world. What we need to be saved from, and what God did to save us.

Yes, this involves presuppositions (as any world view does). There are many resources defending the Christian worldview, from many perspectives, showing its superiority to competing belief systems such as naturalism.

https://creationresearch.org

(I have never been a JW)

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After being in the so-called "Truth" makes me despise all religions.

by Fader812 in

after being a jw made me lose trust in religion, from the lies, hypocrisy and greed of this organization made me lose faith completely.

what does one do after this mind f$%@, what is there to look forward to?

do i make up my own agnostic theory in head and hope for the best?

hooberus

One thing being a JW did real well is show you how all other religions are False - so when you find out JWs are false, well - why would you go to one of the others.

In addition to taking scripture out of context, the Watchtower misrepresents the teachings of others order to make them appear false. For example, they have misrepresented the Trinity for years in several ways. People leave the Watchtower and still hold these strawman beliefs.

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

hooberus

"Those on here can perhaps point me to resources where they beleive these facts are. What's wrong with asking and having a discussion on a discussion forum?"

One of the best books for understanding evolution is the book "The Biotic Message"

It has helped me with some technical issues and especially for understanding the "flexability" and untestability of evolution.

http://saintpaulscience.com/contents.htm

I don't agree with everything in the book since I am a biblical creationist. That said, the book is phenomenal for understanding evolution.

Also see publications by the creationresearch society.

The website "expreacherman.com" has a lot of information defending salvation by grace without works.

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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?

by unsure in

do i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.

i was raised as a jehovah's witness.

i was born in.

hooberus

unsure,

The LORD is God. He created the heavens and the earth alone, by himself with no one else.

24"Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" Isaiah 44:24 KJV

"Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea." Job 9:8 KJV

Since He did it ALONE, then anyone that was involved in the creation of the heaven and the earth MUST be the LORD (Jehovah).

Hebrews 1:10 clearly shows that the heavens and the earth are the work of the hands of the the Lord Jesus Christ.

"And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands" Hebrews 1:10

Therefore The Lord Jesus is Jehovah.

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Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists

by cofty in

i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.

answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .

1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?

hooberus

Quote recovering

"Hooberus

You refuse to see that your experts conclusions are flawed . What if I showed you that even your so called experts admitted that they where incorrect with regards radiometric dating? Would that be enough to persuade you?"

You refuse to admit your previous clear misrepresentation here about the Siccar Point article so why should anyone trust what you have to say on any other subject?

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Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists

by cofty in

i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.

answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .

1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?

hooberus

Quote recovering

"Hooberus i was unclear indeed the author was

Tas Walker . However he also tries to discredit radiometric dating see here

http://thecreationclub.com/the-fatal-flaw-with-radioactive-dating-methods-tas-walker/

So now we have discredited both your experts"

Once again:

He never specifically mentioned radiocarbon dating in that Siccar Point article, yet you implied that he did, and made a big straw man argument about it.

That he elsewhere wrote specifically about radiocarbon dating does not excuse your false accusation about the Siccar Point article, nor does it "discredit" him.

Evolutionists just cant stand anything that questions their version of history. They always do anything they can to attack any author, article, or source that disagrees with them. Its just one source attack after another.