That’s a good description of your posting on this thread.“I have nothing to substantiate.
I have made a claim . . .”
hooberus
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
There is nothing enjoyable about bumping heads with intellectually dishonest people.
True.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
- Your inability to simply state the cornerstone of your faith is duly noted Hooby.
Your refusal to admit that your initial anti-trinitarian argument on this thread was dealt with, and your failure to substantiate your assertive claims regarding the Trinity doctrine are duly noted.
- Your inability to simply state the cornerstone of your faith is duly noted Hooby.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
My claim is that it is impossible to describe the trinity without contradicting yourself or resorting to esoteric language. Most attempts to do so end up in heresy.
It is my contention that christianity is in fact a polytheistic religion.Well since these are your claims and your contentions, then why don’t you demonstrate them by citing respected works of Trinitarians in context, and then carefully demonstrating your points? (Even better also deal with their responses to anti-trinitarian arguments - if you can).
Considerable time was already spent by myself on one of your claimed points here. It often takes more time to refute bad arguments than to make and assert them. I’m not obligated to spend my life responding to whatever you demand, or whatever arguments you assert.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
Cofty wrote: “Why can nobody describe the trinity succinctly in their own words? Could it be because all you will find in every one of those resources is pure sophistry?”
Well you claim that it is “polytheistic”. So apparently you think that you can describe it, (or part of it) just fine !
Cofty wrote: “I used to be a xtian Hooby. I read systematic theologies for fun.”
Really? , From which one did you learn that “Christianity is a polytheistic religion”?
Cofty wrote: “Why is it so impossible for you?”
What says that it’s impossible for me?
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
Cofty, anyone who is interested can easily obtain resources outlining and defending Trinitarianism. I have some books that I can recommend.
I responded here to deal with one of your claims that you believe did not a reasonable answer from a Trinitarian perspective. An objection that you were repeatedly bringing up and demanding an answer to.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
“. . . without self-contradiction or heresy.”
Sorry, but I don’t trust your judgement on what is truly contradictory or heresy.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
cofty wrote:
“The Almighty could NOT make a four-sided triangle.
The Almighty could NOT make a rock so heavy that he can't lift it.
The Almighty could NOT create a married batchelor.
The Almighty cannot be unequivocally God and be in subjection to God at the same time.”
By definition triangles necessarily have no more than three sides.By definition bachelors necessarily have no spouse.
However there is nothing in the definition of Almighty that necessarily prevents them from also taking on the nature of man. Nor as a man, from being subject to parents, or God the Father.
if you are going to assert that this is not so, then explain what prevents Almighty God from also becoming a man and/or explain why God Almighty- as a man- could not (even if he wanted to) be subject to his earthly parents, and could not (even if he wanted to) -as a man- honor the Father as his God as all men should do.
Using your ‘logic’ God Almighty COULD NOT agree to the Terms of Service and Posting Rules here and THEN POST HERE since he would then be in “subjection” to them.
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
Cofty, So many of your points are mere unsubstantiated assertions.That Jesus is fully God and yet also fully human and as such he is in submission to his God and yet he too is unequivocally God Almighty and above all things (apart from his God).
That contradiction.That someone who if fully and unequivocally God Almighty can also take on a human nature and become fully man as well is not contradictory.
Why does it become contradictory if, as a man, he submits to his parents and honors them? Why does it become contradictory if as a man he honors God the Father as his God as all men are supposed to do?
A contradiction occurs when a different position is taken on the exact same point. Such as:
There is only one God and there are many Gods.
Jesus is still a man and Jesus is not still a man.
Nothing that I have written here is contradictory.
To say that someone who is Almighty God COULD NOT also take on a human nature as well, and, as a man, honor the Father as his God is contradictory. What could the Almighty NOT do?
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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)
by JW Answers injehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?
(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?
please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.
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hooberus
No I'm not at all. Your 'explanation' rests on a logical contradiction that compounds the problem.
What “logical contradiction”?