has anyone had any success in getting anyone else out?
how do you even go about doing this without getting df'd for apostasy?
is there any way of using the principles we learned about preaching in reverse to get people out?
Who is David Reed? I've not heard of that book at all.
What kinds of things do they suggest in those books? I've got Crisis. I've read a lot of the JWFacts website and the FactNet website too. Very interesting but any JW I've shared stuff with won't let it in to their minds. Everything I say is answered with "Yeah but..."
has anyone had any success in getting anyone else out?
how do you even go about doing this without getting df'd for apostasy?
is there any way of using the principles we learned about preaching in reverse to get people out?
Hi V,
I love those WT comments clips and have watched all of them a few times over. Well done! They really hit home. Watching them really helped me to see how phony the society is and how hypocritical also. But I have to admit, i felt very guilty initially and was sure I'd get caught looking. How do we know that the WT library CD doesn't have spy ware on it and report every page I visit back to the GB? Talk about paranoia!
has anyone had any success in getting anyone else out?
how do you even go about doing this without getting df'd for apostasy?
is there any way of using the principles we learned about preaching in reverse to get people out?
Hi Megs,
I've got and read CoC and just ordered Christian Freedom. That was definitely my turning point as I could relate to the struggle that Ray went thru. There is no way i could loan that book to anyone or even let then know I have it but I do try to drop the relevant points in to conversations when I can.
has anyone had any success in getting anyone else out?
how do you even go about doing this without getting df'd for apostasy?
is there any way of using the principles we learned about preaching in reverse to get people out?
You're so right with what you say about fear. That is without doubt the root of the unwillingness to talk in most people. Its also very hard to do much about it because I can't offer them an alternative and then they switch off as they would rather hold on to a wrong but comforting idea rather than have nothing.
People like to think they are open-minded but this is often not true, esp with JWs.
has anyone had any success in getting anyone else out?
how do you even go about doing this without getting df'd for apostasy?
is there any way of using the principles we learned about preaching in reverse to get people out?
So you still go to meetings? Even though you know all the stuff that's not right with it? How do you manage to do that? I'd find it really tough to sit there and listen to all their talk regularly and not crack up! I haven't been to a meeting in months and very very few JWs have any contact with me though I've not been "disciplined" or done anything I shouldn't have. Deep-rooted friendships, eh?
I've been having nightmares lately, about the ministry mostly. And I've been feeling guilty about a woman I used to study with. More than anyone else, i want to tell her the truth about things (UN, blood, etc) so that she can make a free decision to leave if that's what she wants. If she gets baptized before she knows about these things, it'll be too late and she'll be in the same trap as the rest of us. :( As it is, she's having to make big sacrifices and is now studying with a sister who really will put pressure on her to conform.
It's so frustrating that there are all these JW books and sequences of "logic" to make converts and very little help anywhere in trying to get people to open their minds and leave it.
has anyone had any success in getting anyone else out?
how do you even go about doing this without getting df'd for apostasy?
is there any way of using the principles we learned about preaching in reverse to get people out?
Has anyone had any success in getting anyone else out? How do you even go about doing this without getting DF'd for apostasy?
Is there any way of using the principles we learned about preaching in reverse to get people out?
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