well, apparently i needed some sort of "proof" that i worked in the rez...
if you want to research the massena or malone congregations, you can verify these facts as true.
thats all. there is a sister named "sandy cook" for instance.... look her up, she is pretty prominent in her rez... she handles a number of social programs, and goes out in service quite regularly. She has a daughter who is not a witness but has studied occaisionally.
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exactly, what is outlaw trying to prove?
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yes, whatever you silly sonofa...
i got nothign to prove to you, nothing to explain, and no reason to have been interrogated or doubted --
I was in malone congregation in Upstate NY, and we have other congregations nearby with native territory too, massena being one of them.
we had several native sisters and a couple brothers, including children of which that we associated with regularly.
We went out in service nearly every week, if not multiple times a week, to different areas of the rez. What is your problem?
are you on fucking drugs or something?
you dont know where im from, you dont know where ive been, and you dont know where im going. If you want to meet up and discuss it, feel free to pm me brutha.
i NEVER said i lived among them. Feel free to dick-wag all you want, but dont give me some lame ass straw man. I dont care if you fucking got raised by wolves you pretentious ignorant knowitall... -
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and as far as me being a hip white boy, you dont know where i came from before i was a jw -- so dont bother, mate.
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you people can be so ignorant :)
it wasnt just me and an elder. The entire congregation worked the rez without fear of anything. Yeah, there were some "interesting" moments, but there were some great experiences, and i dont think it any different than any of the rest of the territory we worked. I've been in brooklyn, philly, pitts, raleigh, and a few other places, and the rez was NOT the scariest place by FAR. -
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yeah whatever man.
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by Solace1998 init was a shock to many when i was df'ed -- .
but i found afterwards, many did not want to obey the arrangement... one sister cornered me at a local supermarket, and made sure everything was okay with me, and if i ever needed someone to talk to, that she and her hubby were available... .
there is more to this, but another sister i worked with was quite ardent about talking to me about much more than just work .
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it was a shock to many when i was df'ed --
but i found afterwards, many did not want to obey the arrangement... one sister cornered me at a local supermarket, and made sure everything was okay with me, and if i ever needed someone to talk to, that she and her hubby were available...
there is more to this, but another sister i worked with was quite ardent about talking to me about much more than just work
one sister asked for guitar lessons for her son
and when i moved back to my first congregation, an old friend and ex-girlfriend pioneer witness tried to talk to me on the phone, which i denied, and then she continuously asks about me to her non believing brother (who i am good friends with)
Of course, to those 2 or 3 people that knew the HORRIBLE sin i was accused of, i was already disfellowshipped, and i guess they made their own arrangement, 2 months before i was even in a committee meeting, as i was pushing my dead car up a snowy driveway by myself, they kept walking even though i was looking right at them, huffing and puffing
oh, poor me.
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witnessing on reservations was always successful, if only for trying to bridge the gap between the white and native people -- you really get to see alot of different culture, working on the rez...
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What JW teaching did you find hardest to defend??
by karter infor me it was that god is killing billions of people just to prove a point.
what about you?
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alot of stuff is pretty easily provable and cut and dry
but to my non-jw gf at the time, the archangel thing was a bit ridiculous.
and some of the revelation interps were a bit rough too.
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The ''truth'' that lead me to question the WTS.
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe truth that leads to eternal life says on page 13:.
we need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with whichwe may be associated.
are its teachings in full harmony with god's word, or are they based on the traditions of men?
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"WTS traditions that really made me question: Why 3 meetings per week?....Why is field servive mandatory?....Baptizing children(why can't they wait until they are 18years old.... Why do I need to always go on field service with magazines and books printed by the WTS?.....Why are there dress codes for meetings ?......"
these are decently flimsy
3 meetings a week is probably a drop in the bucket compared to what Christians of the first century had
if you go by the bible, all people must be preachers - to some extent.
baptizing children? There are plenty of examples of people in the bible that took a stand at a young age... as long as you have the faculties to make the desicion, why should anyone stop you? Of course, there are many parents that push their kids to get baptized (which is abhorrent) also, who says age 18 is the starting point? Why does that age have significance?
I have gone out in service with nothing but a bible before, but yes, i could see the problems with the fact that you can only start proper studies from WT publications...
Dress codes? Well its a matter of dignity and respect, although some people take it too far.
I think there are far more important things to slight the "brothers" on if those are your reasons, thats fine -- i just think they are kind of weak compared to some of the bigger issues, no offense intended.