almostbitten
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Weed Anyone??
by Quirky1 inagain my previous thread was about mowing.
so, what about trimming your yard or garden?
do you you use a wed eater to trim?
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Counselled for nodding at a df'd person
by keyser soze ini remember this happening to my dad, when i was just a kid.
there was a disfellowshipped brother in the cong, whom my dad had been friends with.
before the meeting, my dad just nodded hello to him, didn't even say the word.
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No, SirNose586, DFed people are a special affront to a cold-blooded Organization.
They just need to keep God out of that non-sense and call it what it is--foolishness. -
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Sorry, didn't mean to catagorize per se. For example, St. Francis of Assissi was considered a mystic, but most associate him with Christianity, specifically the RC Church.
Let me share something that I read a few years ago in a religion textbook I own. I think it's really something.
The...[holy man] wants to be by himself. he wants to be away from the crowd, from everyday matters. He likes to meditate, leaning against a tree or rock, feeling the earth move benearth him, feeling the weight of the big, flaming sky upon him. That way he can figure things out. Closing his eyes, he sees many things clearly. What you see with your eyes shut is what counts.
[He] loves the silence, wrapping it around himself like a blanket--a loud silence with a voice like thunder which tells him of many things. Such a man likes to be in a place where there is no sound but the humming of insects. He sits facing the west, asking for help. He talks to the plants and they answer him. He listens to the voices of the wama kaskanall those who move upon the earth, the animals. He is as one with them. From all living beings something flows into him all the time, and something flows from him. --- Lame Deer -
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Seriously, though. Explain yourself, Baba. Are you talking about Christian mystics, Jewish mystics, what? That may be the route I end up taking. -
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Jcanon and my pants fulfilling the 70 year prophesy?
by Asheron indiscuss please...at length..and add youtube videos and quotes that go on for pages...thanks!
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Loose--er, I mean, JCanon, I'm about to go to Walgreens. Need me to pick up your lithium, xanax and diazepam pills for you? I don't mind. Just lie down and rest yourself for a while. -
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"If you are Christian you are definately Trinitarian"
by Sirona inmy jw mother thinks that all christians (non jws who call themselves christian) are all trinitarian.. i tried to point out that there are certain groups who are not trinitarian, but she seemed to think that all christian groups in babylon the great believe in the trinity.. is it true that only fringe groups reject the trinity?.
sorry for my ignorance but i don't know much about mainstream christianity.. i would like to email her (my mum) a list of religions which reject the trinity but are also christian.
i also heard of groups who believe and preach about jehovah as gods name.. sirona.
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almostbitten
One more thing--the use of the name of Jehovah in mainstream Christianity is nothing new. If you go to many older black Baptist congregations, you'll likely hear them singing a call-and-response devotional that goes, "Guide me over, great Jehovah, pilgrim through this barren land," a song that commemorates the Jews and their exodus from Egypt on their way to the Promised Land. And during prayer, from time to time someone will utter the name Jehovah--and this has been going on for years and years!
If you watch tele-evangelists from time to time (and I try NOT to), they often use the name Yahweh or Jehovah. I prefer Yahweh myself, which seemed to irritate my teacher. -
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"If you are Christian you are definately Trinitarian"
by Sirona inmy jw mother thinks that all christians (non jws who call themselves christian) are all trinitarian.. i tried to point out that there are certain groups who are not trinitarian, but she seemed to think that all christian groups in babylon the great believe in the trinity.. is it true that only fringe groups reject the trinity?.
sorry for my ignorance but i don't know much about mainstream christianity.. i would like to email her (my mum) a list of religions which reject the trinity but are also christian.
i also heard of groups who believe and preach about jehovah as gods name.. sirona.
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I'm with LayingLow on this. A young lady in another online forum expressed it best when she said that while even under the roof of one church, belief in the trinity can vary from one person to another sitting on the same pew!
The JW lady I studied with was completely thrown off when I told her that I really didn't believe (or at least I didn't expouse) the doctrine of the trinity--and I was raised a Southern Baptist. It was just never taught or highlighted during service or Sunday School. Come to find out, two of her other studies admitted to not being trinitarians. She just had no clue, because, hey, the Watchtower knows everything about other people, right?
After reading the Bible one year for myself PRIOR to ever studying with JWs, I just kept noticing how Jesus always responded or acted in deference to the Father, not as a co-equal, which is how the doctrine of the Trinity is usually taught. So I am a non-trinitarian Christian with no affiliation to any organized body. I must say, however, that I generally keep that to myself considering I live in the Deep South, heart of the so-called Bible Belt. If you're a little eccentric in your Christian beliefs, folks give you a little hell.
To add to that list of non-trinitarians, I'm tempted to add the Friends of Society (Quakers), but the jury is still out on that. Anyone know for sure about them? -
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JWs and the Mentally Challenged
by almostbitten ini know three women from the local kh (one is a distant relative of mine) who call on my uncle for bible study.
problem is, he has alzheimer's disease--and they were told about this!!!
still, they've been doing studies with him until my aunt (his wife) told them to stop coming by.
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So I'm guessing here that in the case of my uncle and my friend's son, they were "statistics," numbers to jot down so as to seem like good JWs. Sheesh! How low can you go.
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Neutrality Issue - How did the WT Society used to hide behind us...
by justhuman inthe neutrality issue was one of the major issues that young brothers in many places in the world are facing.
some they died for that issue, some the spend many years in prisons, and as a result they are record is marked for being in prison.. in my country many brothers went to prison from 2-4 years, but the most outrageous thing that the wt did, it was to hide behind an 18 year old kids.
yeah the cowards running wt they didn't have the balls to stand next to us, and i will explain why:.
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james and megs, Even though the ICC is a body with no real executive power to provide real justice, wouldn't it be just as useful to bring these incidents up just to make the public aware of the cowardice and double-talk practiced by the Org? The publicity would do real damage, even if the Court itself could do nothing.
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Bad Associations spoil useful habits. Are the JWs right? Scripturally?
by Open mind init has been interesting for me to learn the various ways that the jws twist the scriptures to fit their own dogma.
(of course jws aren't alone in that, but that's another topic.
) two quick examples of jws not following or going beyond the bible are blood and birthdays.
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almostbitten
To add to jgnat, Jesus did associate with those who were outside of the box. Indeed, if we are Christians, we are supposed to reach out to others in example, love and fellowship. IOW, this is a case of good association and influence where Jesus' compassion and unconditional acceptance of them "as they were" made them want to change their ways and follow Him. He did not expect them to carry on and live as they did prior to His influence on them.
As for the spiritual "weight" of Paul's words in his letter as compared to Jesus, I'll have to agree with the man I saw on the History Channel's "Banned from the Bible" program: if Paul had any idea about how others would theologize his letters, he would have been more careful when he wrote them. (paraphrase).