In Michigan they just tried to uphold sex offender registry for a man who went to prison for molesting a sheep.
Go to Michigan Department of Corrections website...select OTIS...search the name Jeffrey Haynes. The Michigan Court of Appeals ruled he didn't have to register since the victim is not a human.
The newspaper article is at BattleCreekEnquirer.com
Mandette(baaa means no)
reading steve hassan's books has brought to mind the many ways jehovah's witnesses use fear and guilt catch phrases to keep the rank and file members from leaving the cult and gaining their freedom.
see if you recognize some of these and if they produce fear or guilt.
" you have to keep up with the latest truths or you'll be left behind if you don't keep up with jehovah's organization and new light .
A big one that always got me was "age of accountability". That's what my Dad used when I misbehaved at a meeting.(when I was 7-8 yrs old) That I was old enough to know better and that I could be destroyed at Armaggedon based on my own merit.
I still have a vivid memory of crying jags on that one.
Mandette
yesterday i had lunch with my parents.
now for as long as i can remember, my mom especially has had the mindset of armaggedon being right around the corner, any minute now, etc.. now......they are talking that "things are some years" away now.. is there another change in the works?
instead of it being imminent now it's years away???
Yesterday I had lunch with my parents. Now for as long as I can remember, my mom especially has had the mindset of Armaggedon being right around the corner, any minute now, etc.
NOW......they are talking that "things are some years" away now.
Is there another change in the works? Instead of it being imminent now it's years away??? I've NEVER heard them talk like that. Really blew me away. And no I didn't ask them because I didn't want to get into the big "discussion". (I was afraid of what I might say and I don't want to alienate my parents)
Does anyone know about this change???? Is it a change???
Mandette
i posed this question on another thread... namely burns and hooberus...wouldn't answer, so i thought i'd ask it again in an open thread..., .
you on the right disagree with roe v wade... so that means that you want to redefine when a zygote, embryo, or a fetus has what anyone would rule for lack of better words "the right to life"... .
exactly when is life, human as per your definition?
Okay Dawg...no attacks now!!!! GRRR
I personally believe that life begins at conception. That being said....I do NOT feel I have the right to tell someone else what to do. So where, I do not agree with abortion, I would not push my views on anyone else. I have this abhorance for people who push their beliefs on me(JW's!!) so I try not to do it to someone else.
So I guess that makes me in the middle of the right and left(did that sound right?)
M
in getting out of the jehovah's witnesses cult - are we all aware of what was totally involved in the mind control they used ?
in steve hassan's " releasing the bonds " he gets into some variables of mind control in detail.
i thought you would enjoy a few of these main points.
I just ordered Steve Hassan's book on cults. I'm really looking forward to reading it cover to cover. I'm sure I'll be even more frustrated by what I see as illogical behavior in my parents. The pat phrases like, "light getting brighter", "Jehovah providing", "meat in due season" etc that just roll out when they are questioned.
I hope it has some research on how super intelligent, strong willed people can be so taken in by a cult.
Mr Flipper as always I really enjoy reading your posts.
M
in cornwall, united kingdom.
see "businessman shot dead and wife critically injued at country home".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3042554/businessman-shot-dead-and-wife-critically-injured-at-country-home.html.
so tragic.....
M
when i wanna be bad, i love a 99 cent double cheeseburger from macdonalds.
A Coke....one in the glass bottle made with real sugar not high fructose corn syrup......a store here imports it from Mexico...
yummy
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http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/wrong.htm.
I'd forgotten about that horrid picture. I used to stare at it when I was a kid...hopefully there will be no bad dreams tonight....
SHIVER
Mandette
to the woman he said....i shall greatly increase the pain of your pregnancy.. to the man he said....cursed is the ground---in pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life and thorns and thistles it will grow for you.in the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground ( death).. now lets look at the above in todays world.would the state (government) after convicting a man of murder, torture him by hard work all his life only to kill him at the end of his life.would a loving parent torture his son all his life for one mistake.. why does god of the wbts blame man for ruining the earth when he made those evil thorns and thistles.today man had to get destroy those evil weeds by chemicals.see no thorns no chemicals.. the list goes on...look at all of god's wars and destruction.. maybe it is me but the more i read the bible the more i get *^%&^%#* .......................... bob.
Sometimes I wonder if the meaning of inspired could be the same as a child being motivated or inspired by an unreachable hero to imitate him? That something being inspired might not necessarily mean endorsed?
So maybe there's something way beyond the scriptures?
Just my mind wandering and wondering.
Mandette
sorry, just a rant... so i am speaking with my dad last night and all i want to do is bring up the best week ever ...jehovah's witnesses are still ridiculous bit, but i hold my tongue because what's the point he's old.
then he begins to tell me about some problems he is having with his leg circulation etc.
so he goes to this chiropractor and he tells him to take some vitamins so he decided to call his jw friend who sells shaklee and order through him.
In the area I grew up in, the obsession was with high colonics performed by Colon Therapists that happened to be Witnesses. There always seems to be some fad in quack medicine that's endorsed by members of the cong. And if it's administered by another Witness, then all the better. It must be okay if it's adminstered by a fellow witness. No formal medical training needed, just being a Witness and promoting a wierd medical treatment was enough.
It's sad and what's worse is that it's(following untrained sham medical idiots in the Dubs) dangerous. I'm so glad my parents aren't like that. But a lot of the Dubs are.
Mandette
