If I were Abraham Lincoln in the nuclear age, there would have been no KKK; no statues of Confederate Generals; and very few people for Fox to pander to.
By the way, I loved that Darth Vaderesque voice quoting Leviticus, chapter 25.
Villabolo
If I were Abraham Lincoln in the nuclear age, there would have been no KKK; no statues of Confederate Generals; and very few people for Fox to pander to.
By the way, I loved that Darth Vaderesque voice quoting Leviticus, chapter 25.
Villabolo
i would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
Stuckinamovement:
"...DJEgghead is really fooling himself. I feel sad for him when he finally realizes that he will die in this old system after spending his life in service to a man made publishing corporation masquerading as the only true religion."
The younger he is the better.
Villabolo
have you ever written a letter to the wtbts asking questions?
who did you address the letter to?
who reads them?
I wrote them a letter 30 years ago. I want my stamp back.
Villabolo
i would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
Djeggnog puking at cantleave:
Cantleave: I refuse to commit [idolatry], and am DF'd for it.
Djeggnog: Idolatry? I don't follow.
I can not show repentance for what I did without compromising my belief that the governing body are setting [themselves] up as idols.
I read this above-quoted snippet of yours, but I cannot follow your logic here.
First, you said you didn't believe the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses to be God's sole channel of communication on earth. I told you that this statement doesn't constitute lawlessness, because lawlessness is sin.
Now I think that you are telling me that you also told someone -- one or more of the local elders? -- that you believe the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses have set themselves up as gods (or "idols"). If this is what you are essentially telling me that you said, this still sounds to me like an opinion, one with which I disagree, but an opinion nonetheless. I see nothing in the statement itself that would merit a Judicial Committee, but, again, I didn't hear your case and do not know all of the facts.
My response:
You damn liar! I was disfellowshipped for saying that the Organization should not call itself "The Truth" even if it were doctrinally correct because it would seem like an infringement upon Jesus when he said, "I am the way, the truth and the life."
That was actually milder than what cantleave said and yet my Judicial Committee (They, under control of a CO, didn't even inform me that there was going to be a JC. They simply tried me in Absentia.).
Face it djeggnog, your organization are self worshipping narcissists who are constantly glorifying themselves.
Villabolo
i would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
Djeggnog:
"I did notice that you embedded videos into your post; I don't watch YouTube videos. To do that would arguably be socializing with you and I don't wish to do that. I am really speaking to "All" even if the convention here may be to post a message to a particular poster."
That's really funny, djeggnog. Watching my posted You Tubes of two raped girls, facing disfellowshipping for exposing Brother Rapist, is somehow associating with me. However, reading what I and everyone else on this board has to say and responding to them is not.
Well, there's nothing funny about the faces of those girls. Your gutless, spineless soul would not be able to look at them face to face. The faces of traumatized victims of your Demon Goddess, the Bitchtower.
You think yourself so 'manly' and 'spiritual' when you vomit your Pharisaical excrement at people on this forum, from the safety of a keyboard, but you'd likely run away from those teenage girls on CNN if they were to run into you out in the real world.
Villabolo
PS: You make a good argument for Eugenics.
yesterday, i went out for lunch with my parents when my mother made mention of something she had read in the newspaper about some new discovery of species that went extinct millions of years ago.
she asked my father what method is used to determine the age of something, because of course, this flies directly in face of the biblical account of life on this planet being only a few thousand years old.. anyway, my father related a story that some brother he ran into recently at the assembly told him.
this [unnamed] brother related a story told to him by another [unnamed] elder who knew an [unnamed] circuit serpent who was "really chummy with one of the [unnamed] executives at the royal ontario museum".
Dgp. Those relatively well preserved animals you cite are Mammoths which have been frozen for only 20,000+ years. Furthermore, their DNA is seriously messed up to the point where it takes some fancy techniques and a lot of patience to get anything out of them. Keep in mind that these creatures usually have only their shaggy coat and dessicated remnants of some internal organs semi preserved.
Dinosaurs, on the other hand, are 60 million+ years old and have not had the luxury of being frozen. That's 3,000 times longer than these Mammoth remains. Even if they had been frozen for those 60 million+ years they would still have decomposed to the point where very little would remain and any remaining DNA would have been altered beyond recognition.
Villabolo
yesterday, i went out for lunch with my parents when my mother made mention of something she had read in the newspaper about some new discovery of species that went extinct millions of years ago.
she asked my father what method is used to determine the age of something, because of course, this flies directly in face of the biblical account of life on this planet being only a few thousand years old.. anyway, my father related a story that some brother he ran into recently at the assembly told him.
this [unnamed] brother related a story told to him by another [unnamed] elder who knew an [unnamed] circuit serpent who was "really chummy with one of the [unnamed] executives at the royal ontario museum".
Quandry. From one computer illiterate to another, there's nothing to it.
Imagination, not expertise at any level, is the key.
Just open a new window or tab from the one your viewing JWN on and Google whatever subject you brainstorm.
Then left click "Images" on the upper left corner of the Google page.
Now you'll get a whole bunch of images and you can select the one you want.
Right click on your selected image. A window with options will show up. Then left click on "Copy".
Then go back to JWN and right click on the commentary box and your final step is to left click "Paste".
Presto. Simpler than it sounds.
Villabolo
I used "Jesus on a dinosaur" as my Google search words for allo those images, including the one below.
this is my first post.
im reading a lot of good stuff in here, like the ones from special mention yknot, fokyc, marcusscriptus, brotherdan, td, and some of the funny stuff from lars the annointed.
well this lead me to reread the gospel account.. .
Welcome Jakeyen.
Villabolo
good day, again everyone.
before delving into my topic, i just want to make it known to people who have pmed me that i have received your messages but it's not allowing me to reply!
i'm not ignoring you.
"... why would humans fight, kill, invest, deprive themselves and expend vast amounts of material and energy into building giant cathedrals and embarking on lengthy missions throughout our history???"
Your question covers too much ground but here goes:
1. Fighting, killing, and mega structures.
The reason for both is rooted in our biological propensity to dominate. It is obvious in fighting. Building large structures is a way for society's dominator/s or perhaps society itself to posture in a "I'm bigger than you are" manner.
Examples of Dominance:
The Pharoahs and their pyramids. The Cathedrals were not so much the Catholic Church displaying dominance but individual towns trying to compete with each other to see who could build the biggest and tallest cathedral.
Easter island was another example. Those large statues, facing the sea, represented the ancestors of the island's inhabitants. They were built by competing clans who were trying to make their statue bigger than everyone elses. Then as they degraded their environment (The degradation was tied in with the statue making.) their society began to collapse and they started toppling each others statues.
The American manned Lunar mission. A direct response to Sputnik.
2. Embarking on long missions.
To fulfill the innate sense of Curiosity. Related to the general quest for knowledge and its ultimate manifestation, the scientific endeavor.
3. Remember, nature selects AGAINST waste and extravagance. Environmental pressures should have weeded out the "god gene" long ago, or so it would seem...
The 'god gene' is irrelevant and not a direct cause of civilization's hypertrophy. Regardless of how important religion was in ancient civilizations, it was simply something with which to imbue civilization with.
Your sense of "long ago" needs some adjustment. Remmber that Human civilization has grown exponentially in its (meaningless) extravagance in just 10,000 years. That is not too long ago when you consider that 'modern' Humans have momentarily buffered themselves from the consequences of environmental destruction.
This process of Human expansion is known as 'ecological release' in scientific terms. Ecological release occurs when one species is able to expand at the expense of other species due to lessened competition, for whatever reason.
With Homo Sapiens, this ecological release was the result of several factors.
a. It was pre conditioned by an advanced brain.
b. Under the right environmental circumstances, severe stresses accelerated technological advance.
The first environmental incident was the gigantic eruption of a volcano, about 70,000 years ago. It was powerful enough to have darkened the Northern Hemisphere for months and thus cause a major reduction of Hominid populations. That seems to have spurred, thousands of years after the eruption, previously small populations of Homo Sapiens that had been limited to Africa into a migratory expansion throughout the world.
In their expansion they eventually replaced other Hominid species.
The second environmental incident was the last ice age, which further accelerated technological innovation, particularly in Europe. Humans had reached Australia 40,000 years ago.
The third incident occured with the end of the last ice age. Humans could no longer maintain their hunter/gatherer ways for a variety of reasons related to population pressures. This led to the adoption of Agriculture which transformed Natural biomass into Human modified biomass. With Natural biomass, only a small fraction of it was edible by humans. With the Human modified biomass of Agriculture, a much larger percentage was edible by Humans.
This led to a population explosion and the conversion of most of nature into a human habitat.
Population has continued to expand greatly, leading to more destruction of the Environment.
Depending on how old you are, you may not have to hold your breath for too long to see Nature select against waste and extravagance on a massive scale. Two, three, four decades?
Villabolo
yesterday, i went out for lunch with my parents when my mother made mention of something she had read in the newspaper about some new discovery of species that went extinct millions of years ago.
she asked my father what method is used to determine the age of something, because of course, this flies directly in face of the biblical account of life on this planet being only a few thousand years old.. anyway, my father related a story that some brother he ran into recently at the assembly told him.
this [unnamed] brother related a story told to him by another [unnamed] elder who knew an [unnamed] circuit serpent who was "really chummy with one of the [unnamed] executives at the royal ontario museum".
According to scholars the word for donkey
in the original Greek has been mistranslated.
They speculate that the colt in Matthew 24
was eaten by the "donkey".
While there's universal agreement that
Christ's triumphal entry was on a dinosaur,
scholars are embroiled in a controversy
over which exact species it was.
Villabolo