They also have the highest turnover rate of any religion.
That means that eventually everyone in the US will have become an ex Jehovah's Witness. That would make for fantastic Memorial attendance.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - Once Again the Fastest Growing Faith in the U.S.
by davidl7 inaccording to the latest statistics published by the ncc in its yearbook of american and canadian churches, the jehovah's witnesess had the highest growth rate, in 2010 growing 4.37%.
this is, i believe, is the 4th year in a row, that the witnesses had the highest growth rate.
roman catholics grew by less than 1%, as did most of the other churches listed.
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it seems like this time period 2009-now a lot are coming out of wbts
by jeckle inits a generalization from my perspective maybe because i've left ?
oh should i define the words time period like the fds.
lets see i hope its not like generation ?
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Welcome Jeckle.
But please get a little more organized.
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HintOfLime:
Slavery was, quite unfortunetly, an institution that the "civilized" world could NOT do without.
So if all the 'easy' energy such as oil runs out, and we fail to replace it with another source, so that civilization takes a few steps back - slavery and the sexual abuse of slaves would become ok again by your standards?
Let's be clear here - you are pro-slavery if the world situation deems it "too inconvienient" to treat your fellow human with respect.
Very well put, Lime. I was going to say something similar but got caught up in other responses.
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Snowbird. First you choose a paraphrased translation that exagerrates the original meaning then you omit what precedes the verse you chose.
Ephesians 6:5,6-New International Version
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.
Obey their masters like they would obey Christ? Sounds familiar. Like the Watchtower telling its members to obey them like they would Christ. Isn't it blasphemy to elevate a person to the same position, or to enjoy the same privilege of unconditional obedience, as God?
And PSacramento says, most disingenously, that Paul may not have made a stand against the institution of slavery but look at all the nice things he advised Christian Masters.
1 Peter 2:18-20-New International Version
18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19 For it is commendable if you bear up under the pain of unjust suffering because you are conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.
Bottom line, it was Christianity's rationalization, tolerance and commendation (Look at the highlighted scripture above.) of slavery's tyranny, with their pie in the sky promises about equality in heaven, that paved the way for 2,000 years worth of slavery. Nothing short of condemnation would have sufficed but then Perry, with his God doesn't care about barbarism while "sin" is with us-and neither should his followers-mentality, will tolerate anything.
That is why Christianity is evil. It is nothing but a psychological adaptation mechanism for the servile who have no balls and ovaries. "Roll over in dung, you'll be rewarded after you die!"is Christianity's true message.
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How Dare The Organization!!!
by minimus inhow dare these people!.
they pretty much force you to pioneer, not pursue a good education, become a "servant" to their whims!.
they don't want you accepting overtime at work because stupid meetings and door knocking is more important.. they accept pedophiles in their midst more than they accept anyone that questions their authority!.
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WHAT A WASTE!!!
Yes, I was 16 in 1975, although it was the 1914 BS that I really took seriously. Then, in the years following 1975, I was depressed, not about any disappointment, but about the general state of things in the organization. I was sick of their pathological self worship.
When the elder who had studied with me noted that I was depressed, he had the foolishness to second guess the reason for my depression. I was disappointed about 1975! Talk about projecting your own feelings onto other people.
I wasted the most formative years of my life with those soul raping mindf*ckers.
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Perry says:
Villabolo says about Christians:
pious vampires
I'm referring to all self righteous Christians who justify Biblical slavery. Slavery is the metaphorical equivalent of a vampire sucking up its victim's blood.
Of course, in your moral vacuousness, you pulled the old pseudo-martyr's trick of crying out intolerance (Part of the general principle of accusing others of what you're guilty of). The type of people you're justifying, which includes the Antebellum slave owning South as well as post Revolutionary War America, are the intolerant ones. But then your genes lack a sense of smelling thy own.
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Perry:
Millions and millions of Christians testify that they KNOW God. This is totally different than the JW type of knowing about God that we all used to experience. Christians claim that God actively and intimately interacts with them. There are not millions of people claiming this about leprachans.
You obviously don't take much thought of what you're about to say in order to see if there are any discrepancies.
First, your argument is an example of the old phrase, "How can millions be wrong?'
Second, you obviously know nothing about other religions in the past or present. There have been millions upon tens of millions who have believed in ghosts; communication with the dead; and yes, Fairies. Theosophy was one of many mystical philosophies that believed in all of them. Most notable of theosophists in the past was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the famed author of the "Sherlock Holmes" detective novels. Not only did he believe in fairies but he actually wrote a book titled "The Coming of the Fairies" which purported to prove the existence of LITERAL fairies (So much for his superlogical book character.)
Theosophy and other similar belief systems, were the 19th and early 20th century equivalent of the New Age philosophies of today. And, not that it matters; because the number of people who believe in something is irrelevant to the reality of that "something"; but have you ever made a count of "born again" Christians in comparison with ALL other "heathen" religions? You can expand this issue to include ALL non Judeo-Christian religions.
And yes, these religions have their own justification from egocentric experience that you "born agains", with your arrogant delusion of exceptionalism, so proudly trumpet.
We Christians are claiming that we KNOW something that cannot be possibly known unless God himself reveals it to a person. This is the exact opposite from the standpoint of the atheist who argues from ignorance and is proud of it.
You and your kind argues from psychosis.
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Perry:
"The author superimposes 21st century economics over ancient ecomonies and ignores historical realities of survival. God did not intervene in this world to make it slightly less barbaric. All sin is barbaric. Believers are to survive in a barbaric world until the Lord comes and removes barbarism totally and replaces it with a 100% population of his own born again human children, not Adam's."
Are you the one who once said that young virgin captives were not raped in the Old Testament?
First, your notion of so called "economic reality" is a common excuse which shows no imagination (Or the lack of desire to use it). Horticulture did not require slavery. Everyone could have had their own land and fed themselves from their own labor.
Your saying that your God did not intervene with this world to make it less barbaric, both contradicts other statements made by Biblical apologists and is morally torpid. It is Biblical apologists who claim that the OT laws were "morally" superior to the rest of the non Hebrew world. In any case, your statement is a projection of your moral vacuousness imposed upon the cosmos.
You said that believers are to survive in a barbaric world until the Lord comes. That reads, between the lines as, "believers can be every bit as barbaric as the rest of the world because they have no moral responsibility in this life".
You're basically like the Watchtower with their abominable "wait on Jehovah, he'll take care of it" rationalization which really means that nothing will be done. Jehovah, like your God, is a mental puppet inside of your skull. A ventriloquist dummy who serves as a perfect sounding board for whatever message the pious vampires of the Earth care to declare.
You spoke of sin, which of course removes all sense of moral responsibility from the minds of "born again" believers (How dare they change anything "sinful", they're running ahead of the Lord!).
It is no wonder that Christianity is condemned as an abomination that would justify any depravity. Remember your own words when you next utter one of your slanderous cliches about atheism leading to Genocide.
"God did not intervene in this world to make it slightly less barbaric. ...Believers are to survive in a barbaric world until the Lord comes..."
What a worthless, iresponsible religion!
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In order to know that there is no God, would require omniscience.
The same applies to knowing that there are no fairies, leprechauns, purple people eaters, etc. I mean, have we searched the whole Universe for them? Case closed.
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Tec:
'The rest of us... we pollute, distort, misunderstand. That's why we should go to Him, over what other people say about Him or about what He 'evidently' meant."
So, tec, we should throw out the Epistles since their authors supported slavery?
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