i came across the words "collective punishment" in the news today, in a negative light, and it got me thinking about what the wt teaches.
they say that everyone, man woman and child are bloodguilty for the worst excesses of this system, of which we are a part.
therefore we all deserve to die.. wt 1995 11/15 p15.
As they have judged others so they should be judged. Whenever child molesters are shielded by their policies let the whole organization be considered collectively guilty. Let's see how (un)willing they are to play by the rules they lay upon others.
villabolo
ok here we go...im going to put my head on the chopping board (so to speak).
i only came on here to meet new people and have chats etc...yes i am a jw and do love jah.....but im also just an average person who im pretty sure many of you would get on with if we had the time to chat about other things too.... i think some want me to go....sad but yes true.....if you all want me to go then i'll do that..im fine with it as i just want to please people...... i know jb and some say they want to go to my elders,and honestly im fine with that but surely if someone is threatening then they clearly dont want me on here...... time to go???????
or as big brother would say "who goes...you decide"?
Please realize, angel eyes, that we've had in the recent past a pretty obnoxious JW troll that would hijack threads and insult certain posters. Some of the people here are a little paranoid and others are just plain rude but don't let that scare you off. You're welcome to stay here.
villabolo
I think this individual has some clinical issues. I'd be firm with his absurd statement(s) but go easily on his person and try to show him some consideration for what is probably an illness. I myself was a little rough in my last post to him.
Pjshipper, if you're reading this. Get a doctor and some medicine. I mean that seriously and respectfully.
villabolo
i finished reading the demon haunted world by carl sagan about a week ago.
a porition of it talked about aliens and i started thinking about jws and alien stories.
i can't recall any stories about aliens from jws i've ever known or stories from any of their friends.. when i was a little kid, i knew someone who's older brother claimed aliens were demons trying to lead people away from the bible.
"HB: (All this shows is that there is no scientifically advanced civilization within 160 light years or so capble fo contacting us.) Even if they responded to the early transmissions, the signal would not have reached us yet."
Implicit in that statement is the assumption that they would even want communicate with us. What if they just don't want to talk to us? Would you blame them?
villabolo
pjschipper: "I know in the long run your life will be empty, without purpose, without true love."
A most arrogant and presumptous thing to say. Lives have been saved by JWN because they have been shown true love. That and exorcising the Watchtower demons is our purpose and, the limitations of the internet notwithstanding, has filled up the emptiness we felt when in the JWs.
i finished reading the demon haunted world by carl sagan about a week ago.
a porition of it talked about aliens and i started thinking about jws and alien stories.
i can't recall any stories about aliens from jws i've ever known or stories from any of their friends.. when i was a little kid, i knew someone who's older brother claimed aliens were demons trying to lead people away from the bible.
willyloman:" I'm willing to entertain the thought that there may be something to these theories. Of course, I bought the WTS' crackpot theories for 20 years of my adult life so perhaps my judgment is impaired.
willy, when I was young and naive I read Eric Von Danikens book Chariots of the Gods and thought of it like a revelation from heaven (or the stars at least). Then somebody gave me a book called Crash go the Chariots and I quickly realized Von Daniken was full of it. A couple years later I became a JW. It took 8 years to realize that they were made of it.
The most important thing in finding out the truth of anything is to maintain curiosity in a wide variety of subjects. For example, I have an interest in Paleoanthropology, the study of prehistoric man and as of this moment I am reading Before the Dawn by Nicholas Wade. The book explains, in evolutionary terms how a sudden improvement in Stone Age technology, long before the pyramids ever appeared, was brought on by genetic mutations. No alien operations on our brains or genes are needed, mutations happen spontaneously. Even though men were just as intelligent in the Stone Age as in the age of the pyramids our potential was kept suppressed by the ice age (which had encouraged our evolution in the first place). Once the warm interlude had come mankinds technology and understanding began taking off even further.
villabolo
To be blunt about it you're wrong angel eyes. Your organization is not Jah's spiritual home nor are the JWs his spiritual family. Also, being disfellowshipped on a matter of conscience or integrity is a badge of honor. So even if it's devestating it's like being wounded in a war against an evil organization except no one is going to give us a purple heart.
villabolo
does this ever cross the mind of your average jw?.
can you even begin to imagine what that would look like or even smell like?.
what about the effect of these scenes on the mind of children, even adults?.
Why do people bring this point up as if it were an impossibility? Let the ants take care of the corpses!
villabolo
telegraph uk: charles darwin film 'too controversial for religious america'.
a british film about charles darwin has failed to find a us distributor because his theory of evolution is too controversial for american audiences, according to its producer.
creation, starring paul bettany, details darwin's "struggle between faith and reason" as he wrote on the origin of species.
Just goes to show how pathetic this nation has become. In the 1960's I remember watching Inherit the Wind on television. It was about the famous 1925 Scopes "monkey trial". There's even a 1999 version of it.
villabolo
