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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-25-2011 WT Study (ENTER REST)

  by blondie in

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  however, love for god and for his.

  our love for god and his dear son = is of no value unless we are part of the human/earthly organization, the wts.

  how many scriptures are actually read and applied at a meeting?

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  Excellent post/ commentary/ thread, as always!!!
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  Special day Last talk "No formula"

  by MommieTiger in

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  2. bible

  this weekend at our special assembly day, let gods will take place the final talk was a head shaker.... the bethel speaker was quite entertaining when he joked @ the shortcomings of the elders.

  he also made us laugh with the comment "we were told the end of the system is right around the corner, but we've found its been more than that, we've been around the blocks a few times.

  " he told the young ones to make the truth their own by researching in the wtbts publication (only).

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  This a great thread, thank you for posting!! I don't come out much, but you definitely caught my attention. I am sure that this brother was probably ad-libing away from the outline. All that I have ever heard for 30 years is how CLOSE we are and we better be ready. It's interesting that someone actually is backing away (ever so slightly) from the long held "The end is coming tomorrow mentality"

  Again, great thread!!!
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  Have you noticed that the Watchtower is not emphasizing how close the end is as much?

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  maybe i am off base, but it seems that the last year or so hasn't had the standard retoric about how "imminent, close, or soon" the end will be.

  it seems as if the focus is now on obeying the governing body.

  have you noticed this?.

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  It's hard for me to go to the meetings because that's all that I hear from the platform. They say more than ever how close we are to the end. I am wondering if anyone actually believes the BS. Then I look around and see how 60% of the KH has been in the org. for less than 10 years, so this is all new to them. I was baptized in the early 1980's so it's really painful for me to listen to. Kinda like a 10 YO who has to hear his parents talk about the Tooth Fairy and Santa to his 4 YO sibling. (Hey KID, they are lying to YOU!!!!!)
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  Dec 15th WT: "Be like Solomon and don't go to university / don't be like Solomon and join a sports team!"

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thanks to 'gayle' for bringing our attention to the fact that the december 15th watchtower has now been uploaded to jw.org.

  it doesn't take long to reach the first juicy bit on pages 8 and 9, this time regarding higher education:.

  it would be good to ask, am i taking to heart solomons example of treasuring divine wisdom?

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  The information presented at the meetings are unbearable. I stopped reading the literature some time ago. I think to myself, "Am I the only one seeing this BS?" I am throughly concvienced that no THINKING/Reasoning individuals attend the meetings anymore. It is not possible!!
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  NEW RUMOR: WT ALLOWS BIRTHDAYS

  by J.R.R.Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've just read at a spanish forum for ex-jw that the wt has cooked a new light article series about social celebrations, including birthdays and aniversaries.

  according to a member of this forum 'in short' the wt will let witnesses to decide by 'their bible trained conscience' either they celebrate birthdays or not.

  is this rumor based in some real facts or it's just bullshit?.

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  When my 20 YO son turned 3, I wrote the society and asked them this quastion. They referenced me to an upcoming article that spoke of how MATURE christians would not celebrate birthdays. In my letter I referenced Job's children and the angels that celebrated Jesus' birthday. It seemed like a conscience matter, just don't tell anyone (kinda like college)
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  CO talked out of both sides of his mouth

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today was the last day of the co's visit, my husband stayed home from the meeting and we painted the house together which was good, but he wanted to tie into the meeting, i was ok with it as it allows me to point out the stupid parts of this religion.

  there were many things that made no sense but one that truly stuck out.. in his talk the co went on about how there are so many things satan uses to distract us from jehovah and one of them was fear of our future and how some work all their lives for retirement, many at jobs they hate.

  people do not enjoy the here and now all out of fear for what will happen when they grow old.

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  Great POST!!

  I love it when individuals post topics like this. Sometimes I sit in the hall and wonder if I am the only intelligent one there. I have discovered that The typical J-Dub has NO reasoning ability. I think many really believe that the END is coming tomorrow; So I gotta pioneer ASAP.......When they reach their 60's and 70's with diabeties and HBP, some realize that the dream will be unfulfilled. They become inactive, smoke and do the things they saw their NOW retired peers doing at 20 while in college. I know a pioneer, (Presiding overseer) elder that became inactive the last 4 years of his life. His daughter told me AFTER his death that he was so disapointed that he was going to die in this system, he started smoking and drinking and gambling and.......... The life of an elderly Jay Dub is truly miserable and unfullfilled!!!
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  What made you leave "The Truth"?

  by Chemical Emotions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me it was many things.

  most concerned certain teachings that invloved genders, children, sex, sexuality and sexual orientations, disfellowshipping, apostates, blood, rape, and few other things, as well as the jw's unloving attitude toward so many people..

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  The "Evil Apostates" held signs up at our convention. I saw one regarding 1975 and it referenced a 1968 WT. Many (possibly 20) years later I looked it up and saw the article regarding "Why I was looking forward to 1975"

  The generation change was the ultimate. They NEVER admitted that they made a mistake.

  Later blood became an issue as well. I knew that I would NOT let my family die and then the WT change the issue to one of conscience.
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  What is difference between Black Congregations and White Congregations

  by Pitchess Co-Gen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm from south los angeles and been to black congregations all my life, but i moved 70-75 miles north from where i grew up.

  i just want to know the difference ..

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  Another distinctive difference was the speakers. Growing up in the org., Young black brothers are expected to give GREAT talks. I gave a GREAT talk (IMO) and recieved 7 minutes of counsil for having my legs too far apart. I was JUST 16, but very arrogant. I think the black halls are TOUGH on all speakers. They EXPECT GREAT talks ALL the time. In white halls, it was very rare to get an IMPACTFUL motivating speaker. I actually scheduled / requested brothers from my hall in South LA to visit all of my white congregations. Ironically, many of the Black brothers in white congregations were below average speakers.

  This is JUST my personal experience / observations.
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  What is difference between Black Congregations and White Congregations

  by Pitchess Co-Gen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm from south los angeles and been to black congregations all my life, but i moved 70-75 miles north from where i grew up.

  i just want to know the difference ..

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  I'm from South Los Angeles and been to Black congregations all my life, but I moved 70-75 miles north from where I grew up. I just want to know the difference .

  Great question. I like many others did the same thing. I actually loved participating and having friends in the black hall. I LOVED the people. I felt guilty when I missed a meeting. In the white hall that I attended in the Antelope Valley, the black friends went out of their way to show warmth. The white friends seemed to be more concerned about the clothes or shoes my wife wore. Some would not talk if she had on something new. It was a weird energy in the hall because it was KINDA integrated. People interacted, but still had segregated parties. Everyone had a long commute, so missing the meetings was not a problem. I loved that about the white halls. We NEVER had a sheparding call from a white elder. I work in an integrated environment and I get more LOVE from co-workers.

  80 miles out? Are you going to Palmdale or Moreno Valley?
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  Terrible Analogy at a Convention

  by ApostateDance in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'd love to know what you guys think of this.

  brother jackson (from the governing body) had this "neat" analogy at the very end of the convention.

  he said; "what if you were watching a football game on tv, and it was the trojans against the fighting irish, and it's been a good game.

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  Stupid analogy?

  He decides to use the greatest college football team in an illustration and you evil apostates complain?

  You will all be destroyed for that one!!!

  ........and Vince Young's knee was DOWN!!!

  lol

  j/k