What is the spin that the organization is using to justify this downsizing? Also, how is this being perceived by fateful witnesses?
Does anyone know of any consolidations in the Los Angeles area?
we know all the dissolved congregations in minneapolis/st.
paul now:.
1. lake of the isles .
What is the spin that the organization is using to justify this downsizing? Also, how is this being perceived by fateful witnesses?
Does anyone know of any consolidations in the Los Angeles area?
every once in a while you hear people say they actually “miss” their old witness friends and or family.
some would have even stayed in the organization if they became a bit more liberal and open minded.
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Yes!!
my wife and I actually discussed it at a recent JW funeral that we went to.
I have a few JW friends who have nonbelieving mates who I regularly associate with as couples. We never talk about the organization.
I remember asking several non-JWfriends (after the generation change) what would what they do if their religion taught something they couldn’t accept?
Each one told me… They don’t agree with every teaching of their religion. That was a totally foreign concept to me!
as a witness, you accept everything or you get kicked out!
If I could just go to the kingdom hall once a month or so… Like church people do… I would be fine. I love it How some church people will only go on Christmas and Easter… And everything is all good!
i could never do field service again though… Probably would never go to the hot Long Beach Arena for a convention either.
I want my children to continue to play sports and go to college… So that obviously would be a problem for them being accepted by others.
Being a witness and being on conventions has helped me to excel in my career a great deal.
so i use to go this hall that was basically 100 percent white and basically anyone under the age of 40 has either faded or makes a token effort to keep the peace at home, of course outside of the usual dregs of society .
the hall went from two congs to one and i was quite happy that in ten years they would be lights out.
then in the last two years about six young filipino families have moved in and three of them are newly baptized .
Jimmy Young- What is black culture? Something you’ve seen on television, read in the newspaper… Or based upon the neighborhood you lived in?
marches, sit ins, traffic blocking is the new normal for people to demonstrate.
they block highways, state buildings and roadways.
they may even get arrested but invariably get turned loose by the courts.. i think it’s disgraceful to demonstrate this way.
What is an acceptable way to protest? Sit during the pledge?!
Something that is not disruptive or upsets people?
the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .
ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.
i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.
Unfortunately, I don’t think we ever walk away. Many of us read the magazines and check Jw,,org on a regular basis. My wife criticizes me for looking at the evil apostate sites on YouTube… But I dedicated my entire life to this… And I can’t stop looking in the rearview. Just my opinion I could be wrong. But I’ve come to realize this is my truth. Never leaving the truth… After finding out the truth about the truth!
at least at the moment it looks like no one is dead, but 6 injured (9:00 am pacific time 14 nov 2019).. i don't know if the school allows students to carry weapons, but many will think it would be a good idea for the students to carry concealed weapons to provide personal protection.. we shall see.. rub a dub.
The 14-year-old child that was killed is from a family of Jehovah’s Witnesses. I know several members personally. I was told that the child attended the kingdom hall as well; but I am not sure.
some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".
i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.
I believed it all… When I stop believing (1995 generation teaching change) my attendance was sporadic for over a decade. I stopped going about four years ago.
i can never understand why some people simply stink.they don’t smell themselves??
i knew of certain jws that had to be counseled many times because they refused to regularly bathe, wash their hair or use deodorant.
and it’s not just witnesses.
Some odors come from INSIDE the body vs. dirt on the outside. I knew a witness with Trimethylaminuria (TMAU). No matter how much bathing the person bathed, There was still an odor. I knew someone who killed them selves because the friends were so cruel at the KH.
the fires have been hitting many areas of los angeles lately.
recently, i checked my home voicemail and noticed messages from several elders.
they were calling everyone on their “books” to ensure that they were ok.. i assume this is the protocol for a natural disaster.
When I went to the congregation in my neighborhood… The elders would stop by prior to every circuit overseer visit (twice a year). I would never share my true feelings, I would just let them count their 20 minutes of time and move on. This was VERY frustrating to them because they wanted a reason that I had stopped going to the hall. I would just blame it on a demand job. I had a good relationship with many of them.
At this new KH, I’d only went once to a meeting… My wife went a few times more times, so they don’t know us.
i did not change my number, because we never really use our house telephone. It’s a relic we really don’t use. We live about 15 miles from the KH, which is a long way in Los Angeles. Not really worth the trip for strangers.
the fires have been hitting many areas of los angeles lately.
recently, i checked my home voicemail and noticed messages from several elders.
they were calling everyone on their “books” to ensure that they were ok.. i assume this is the protocol for a natural disaster.
The fires have been hitting many areas of Los Angeles lately. Recently, I checked my home voicemail and noticed messages from several elders. They were calling everyone on their “books” to ensure that they were OK.
I assume this is the protocol for a natural disaster. We Had our publisher cards moved to a distant congregation… And then stop going to the meetings about four years ago. I thought this was the ultimate
”fade”
I was still very surprised they reached out.
One said… “If you don’t return our call, will have to stop by!”
Of course, that made me I respond!