What about a billboard across from main bethal branches with some wts quotes with a referance would surely make a lot of jws check it out. Would it produce anything? Who knows but that would surely get WTS jumpy seeing a billboard like that across from their "holy" bethal. Not only are there a lot of people working slaving at these buildings but these buildings also attract a lot of jw visitors, also a lot of new studies visit the "holy" sites.
diamondiiz
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Apostate Brainstorming Session
by AllTimeJeff ini have been meaning to bring this up for a long time.. sometimes, i think we (former jw's) who are very rightly concerned about all the lies of the governing body have some great ideas about how to expose jehovah's witnesses.. some of us have very passionate and distinct ideas.
not a few of us have websites with our own personalities evident.. i don't wish this to get personal.
even if i disagree with some presentations or rhetoric of some, i know that it is sincere.
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Apostate Brainstorming Session
by AllTimeJeff ini have been meaning to bring this up for a long time.. sometimes, i think we (former jw's) who are very rightly concerned about all the lies of the governing body have some great ideas about how to expose jehovah's witnesses.. some of us have very passionate and distinct ideas.
not a few of us have websites with our own personalities evident.. i don't wish this to get personal.
even if i disagree with some presentations or rhetoric of some, i know that it is sincere.
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One would have to have a united front but most of us who left wts don't care enough to pursue this cause as we've spend enough of our lives in this bogus religion that IMO most of us wouldn't want to waste more time than necessary trying to take down wts. Most witnesses won't see reality until their circumstances change or their mind is ready to awaken in a similar manner as those who join wts must be in a certain mental state. This is also why we were told to keep calling repeatedly because the people's circumstances may have changed and would become more receptive which in a similar manner they must be ready to open their eyes to the reality of the wts deception.
But really even if this religion fell apart most likely many sects would form just as it happened after Russell died. There is enough nut cases out there that already speak of different dates of invisible return of Christ who wouldn't mind jumping on the opertunity to sucker in this new group of lost souls.
This site should have a downloadable section where we could contribute any info that would have a jw to examine wts teachings from not only their publications but also from legal documents and crazy interviews the wts had with the media over the years and so on. Many have some cool scans of odd things that may shed some light on something that we may not have thought of before which is connected to wts or it's presidents in the past. Rutherford is a prime example of his colorful life that many witnesses never heard of before.
Besides that I don't see too many if us going holding placards outside KHs or conventions.
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2009 Annual Worldwide Service Report -- 7.3 Million Publishers
by Joker10 inchina: the number of publishers has increased.
in some parts of the mainland, they can openly go door to door without much interference.
there are actally buildings now used as kingdom halls.
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I believe the partakers are just under 10,000 for last year.
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LaToya and Sheri talk about being JW's on The View
by purplesofa inand she answers the question from barbara about michaels kids being jw's.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbtqsslveou&feature=related.
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When people leave wts because they want to follow their own way (other than knowing truth about wts) or because they are disfellowshipped for moral reasons many of these still view wts as "the truth" and many still fear us apostates and many would still would not come on sites like this one. LaToya probably still falls into that category which seems that Michael was still a believed deep inside since he allowed his kids to be taken care by his jw mother without any major or any restriction as to wts religion. Too bad that being outside of wts none of these people ever look up facts about the cult.
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Are the Dubbers still preaching the end is very close?
by dogon inwe use to joke around and use the line from danny deveto on romancing the stone where he is asking michael dougless when he is coming back, soon very soon as a way to make fun of the believers who would keep telling us on stage the end was soon very soon.
they started this after the 75 and 2000 failure.
what are they saying now?.
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"we're in the last days of the last days"
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Changes after 1942 are new light from God or an apostasy by the Devil's influence?
by Andrew Derevyanko inthe scriptures and the physical facts clearly show that the work which bible students and jehovah's witnesses did from 1878 till 1942 are not just work of men charles taze russel and joseph franklin rutherford, who were chief servants in the visible part of jehovah's organization, but that such work is a product of god's spirit and in fulfilment of his prophecies written long ago through faithful men of old.. after the days of the apostles of christ jesus gross darkness covered those who were called christians and many began to practice religion or the traditions of men rather than the bible teachings.
then in 1878 till 1918 there was a work of preparing the way before jehovah's coming to the temple through his official representative christ jesus.
(malachi 3:1)such work was done to prepare before the lord a "people for his name" that such ones should be witnesses to his name and kingdom.
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Andrew D: Russell had a wierd ideas and even wierder marriage and possibly started watch tower to keep his fortunes away from the mrs. if/when they would have a divorce. Lucky bastard had to jump state to keep from paying her any alimony. Rutherford was a crook!!! To think more of Rutherford than him being a total scambag is not doing a research on the man. Rutherford took the crazy ideas that Russell had and build on them to set himself a king over a bunch of poor ignorant uneducated people and use his "brothers" for his own benefit. There was no light before 1942 nor after. You had wierd teachings before 1942 which were mellowed out after as the population couldn't swallow crap like building a mansion because the ancients are returning :) To grow in numbers post-Rutherford wts leaders had to scale down on the BS but continue pushing the imminent end as sheeple needed to hear that and they still continue to eat this shit up. To this day they need to revise the nearness of the end as the entire religion hangs on this idea that Christ returned invisibly. You obviously didn't do your research on Rutherford to even consider that man your brother. But as a side note since you assume that Rutherford had some sort of light from God why was he pushing Angels and Women book which even some questioned him on it as it was said to be inspired by a demon and Rutherford rebuked the individual claiming the book was excellent source of information - not in exact words. I can pass over Russell as some delusional man who possibly believed his crap until he died but that's where it ends for me, Rutherford and the rest who came after knew or should have known that they were selling BS to the masses!!!!
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Convention Parking Scam - What exactly is it?
by cantleave inoften mentioned but some of us don't know what it refers too (except the fact they charged for parking when they didn't have too - could be argued it offsets the cost of stadium hire).
is there a specifc example with how much money is raised?.
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I know in Canada - they would recommend a donation for parking based on parking rates of the convention site. I'm not sure if this scam is still going on but I'm guessing it's still is as most witnesses assume that the donation automatically means you HAVE you pay for parking the specified donation. Any still active elders here could maybe help us out if wt$ is still using the parking scam to rip off it's own members.
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Jehovahs Witnesses are banned in Russia
by Quadraphoenix inhttp://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=1385.
this is very exciting news for all of us, especially for the ones that want to leave that are in russia.. .
quadraphoenix.
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I wonder if WTS will compromise with Russians since GB is in US and r&f are a continent away. Russians like Malawi witnesses are most likely poor and can set a very good example for the rest of the members as to how to show their loyalty to WT$ Jehovah. This example will be heralded during assemblies and conventions and wts have found themselves a new King Of the North as a new light hits gb in a head while sleeping while the r&f jumpo up and applaud the grand revelation as the end must be oh so close. After all they are living in the last day of the last days. If Russian witnesses offered more financially to the wts cause maybe then wts lawyers would push harder to compromise, who knows what kind of play on words they can sneak by Russian judges as they did in Bulgaria or Hungary. IMO this will be Malawi II except less extreme but a tool for GB to use for witnesses in wealthy nations as example how poor Russian witnesses are putting WTS God's interests first.
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Unbelievable!!! ,The Watchtower is still teaching the old generation doctrine!
by 1914BS inthis is nuts.
the feb 15 -08 wt threw out that doctrine!!.
those whose make it into the paradice are not the "generation" as spoken of at matthew 24:34. .
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It doesn't matter because the followers don't catch onto the BS nor do they now their own history nor do they know their present light as it's changes so frequently that if you missed some small word in the article you're living in the past light. Today this tomorrow that.....Dubs don't know their own doctrines nor do most care. How many of us knew that Christ wasn't our mediator? Most of us didn't realize that BS teaching until we left or read it in C.O.C.! Today you need this to enter paredise tomorrow you'll need to stand on your head and with information control and mind control dubs can't sere the reality and truth for what it is and they imagine that reality is evil but their lunatic world is the real truth and thus they call it the truth. WTS can't confuse the confused so they don't worry about posting old light while they teach some other crap since the confused sheeple won't catch it anyways.
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Maybe being a Witness wasnt so bad?
by acolytes inbefore i became a witness i was a shallow egotistcal happy go lucky married man.
i owned 2 houses which were rented out.i lived rent free in london working for a rich arab-.
due to being a witness i quit a job and a lifestyle i will never have again.. i now live in sweden with the same wife and have a kid- i can think critically.my good friends are those i met on the ministry (but never converted)-i have good friends from my congregation in england.
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HappyGuy:
Are you insane?
Oh, this post makes me very angry.
Those bastards made my life very hard for no reason.
I did not have a childhood.
My father was opposed and I spent all my time with busy work "putting Jehovah first" and ZERO time with my father.
I LOVE learning and did not get an education.
I spent 22 years of my life feeling like I couldn't enjoy anything, believing that all non JWs are "wicked".
Oh hell with it, this list is really long and I don't want to relive this shit any more.
I HATE the WTBTS and JWs and wish I had never heard of the mother fuckers.
I wasn't sure if that was you or me writing that :) I feel exaclty the same except for 22 years I would say 19 from the day of baptism to the day I gave them my DA letter. I curse the day I learned about them.