I left the forum for few years, but i guess I'm back now, i don't post like before, but I like from time to time to pop in and see how my old friends are doing and post also my experiences.
So anytime come back and share with us your thoughts
cheers
for almost 12 years now, i have been coming to this site on a regular basis and in the last 5, i “faded out”.
i never regretted this and never will.
unfortunately though, yesterday, i realized that, until i can publically tell all my old acquaintances why i have left, i will never be truly free.
I left the forum for few years, but i guess I'm back now, i don't post like before, but I like from time to time to pop in and see how my old friends are doing and post also my experiences.
So anytime come back and share with us your thoughts
cheers
it's fun times for us spurs fans.
we're playing great football, are sensible at the back and are beating top teams in england and abroad - teams such as man united, liverpool and real madrid.
we're in the qfs of the fa cup, are progressing nicely in the champions league, and are competing for a top four finish in the premier league.
I prefer Klopp!!
Wow!!!! They are complete f@$+ing nuts!!! Does any knows how can I obtain the video without the commentator? Is Is it on JW.ORG
Thanks
have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.
now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.
something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.
It depends how do you define "sin". Yes when I left I did attend to birthday parties, I have attend to other Christians Churches as well, been to Buddhist Temple, so from WT perspective view it is sin.
But I kept my moral standards, since I believe what Jesus said about fornication, lying etc. I didn't try any drugs, or any other bad behavior
On the other hand I have some wordly friends who become and are JW's that saved their lives being in the Org. They used be heavy drug users, immoral life, (they would have died either from drugs or sexually transmitted decease)
A common mistake that some ex-Jw's are doing is trying to do what WT prohibits. This is not the way to see things, I have followed a mainstream Christian faith, (Babylon the Great) but still I kept my high standards, And one thing WT likes to point out against ex-Jw's is that they left a moral way of living and become evil and immoral.
according to the org's website, various congregations will be moving in with other congregations, effective january 1st 2017.
(i've only highlighted a couple) in all probability, their own k.h.
is/has been sold.
@darkspliver, the price is not bad if you take into consideration that is in Wales, and the value of the property market there is quite low, comparing to what you need to pay for London and Greater London
according to the org's website, various congregations will be moving in with other congregations, effective january 1st 2017.
(i've only highlighted a couple) in all probability, their own k.h.
is/has been sold.
Looking at the KH and the locations that they are for sale this will generate a lot of £££ to the Org...Very clever business move by "God's Earthly Representative"
So if we take also into consideration the following:
a. No labor cost to build them since is all by JW's volunteers
b. Those properties that converted to KH again the same principle applies
c. The purchase was basically a large portion of it by donations
The outcome is very impressive how much money does the Org gets!!!
Also don't forget the monthly contribution for the KH that you might have 3 different congregation using the same building!!
God that's a lot of cash.
Indeed "God" £££ is blessing them
august 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.
So before the elders take any action, they have to contact Bethel and inform what is the problem, wait guidance from Bethel and then take the next steps....
i haven't posted for quite a bit, decided to share my thoughts on this one, so it is a reference topic for anyone who decides to return back to the org, knowing all about the tatt.
being way for quite long for almost 15 years and all wt's activities, i have missed quite a lot including the "new light" latest updates, i found it quite hard to follow up what was going on to the meetings.
new songs, wt broadcast, videos, internet (so wt now is in favor of the internet) cartoons, and everything seemed completely new and weird to me.. reason for going back it was the severe pressure from close family members to return back to the "truth".
Hi Chook,
The reason I went back it was not to loose contact with my young at age son and I'm into the fading process now. Regarding my current believes I'm spiritual person, I believe in a Creator, for sure I don't believe the Old Testament and parts of the New, I consider my Christ's follower (I will not go through the Divine or supernatural nature of Christ), since I believe what he teach, the simple universal law of love. I don't have faith in any institution, or religion, and specially the WT, which I consider them as mind control cult, like Mormons.
if i'm tierd i fall asleep anywere so the meetings ect were no diffrent my wife would always try to wake me but im a deep sleeper.
karter .
All the time!!!!
and i am finding the adjustment to the real world far more difficult than i ever imagined...i f...it has been about five years since i totally woke up to the fraudulant nwt and then all my other doubts i had carried for years were proved true as well.
but almost all of my few friends are exjw or slack jw's and i feel so isolated...my sons friends are mostly exjw too but not their gf's and they have way more normal friends .
how have you done at replacing lifelong friends and family?
I'm so glad to see that still he is remembered.
Diogenesister,
I believe it would be great if we all could create a charity for ex-jw victims. I had 2 other JW friends who committed suicide and with oompa is 3. I don't know how many of you have similar experience, that you know at least one person who committed suicide, it looks like jw's aren't the happiest people on earth