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this presentation goes over jerry bergman's research on mental illness with jehovah's witnesses.
this includes over 8 different research projects conducted by different doctors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urbxtvuat1g.
Reniaa the classic JW blind follower....
When your "religion" tells you that the end is close and you will not grow old in this system, and suddenly you find your self OLD with white hair and you have put all your eggs to the basket called 'ARMAGEDDON" and did nothing for your future then we can talk about it again...
WT failed in every single subject. They promised us we will not grow old and we will see the end but we are getting old. They promise us a GENERATION THAT will NOT PASS AWAY, but the generation DID pass away. They are LIARS that lead many people to commit suicide and others to seek medication for mentall illness
this presentation goes over jerry bergman's research on mental illness with jehovah's witnesses.
this includes over 8 different research projects conducted by different doctors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urbxtvuat1g.
Good points Mr. Flipper. The only cure for depression when you are a JW is very simple:
1.Do more preaching
2.Meetings
3.Personal Study
4.Read only WT publications....
They are so sick my God...
Many of us have gone through severe depression in that cult(including my self). My best friend killed her self due to that cult, not to mention all the pain if you are disfellowshiped. Bergman did an excellent job
http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.
http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.
Thanks Blondie...the GB are feeling the ground shaking below their feet. Since I left WT in the late 90's they have gone through many changes that I hardly recongnize them..
What matters to them is POWER over the remaining JW's
over 100 years into the reign of christ and six more years of damage from the internet.
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what do you envision?.
GREAT SONG DUDE....In the year 2525....I was not even born when it came out, but I LOVE 60's.
As for the topic I believe WT will run out of followers in the near future. Internet, education, are the negative factors that will drain WT. Just have a look at the internet and see how many ex-jw web sides exist.
On the other hand the leadership of the cult are trapped to their own past mistakes concerning chronology and they can't get way from it. So for an average JW the "generation" teaching has nothing to do with those JW's during the 80's(like me). At that time we had something solid to hold for the end of this world. Now in the year 2009 all they hear the end is close....
The alarm bell has really lost the meaning of the current JW's. I believe WT will have a slow fade out since they have NOTHING to give to the rank and file
peace
justhuman
and now...look at my grandchildren.
the youngest started kindergarten this year.
the best part, is he had no fear.
You should be happy with for your grand children. I was told the same thing in the mid 80's...remember it was the era of the famous generation...
I left school few weeks before my graduation to become pioneer since the end was sooo close.....
Now I'm in my early 40's, my hair start to turn white, a family broken due to WT...I just hate them
keep it secret has been wts child abuse policy for years.
he said the policy that jehovah's witnesses have on how to handle cases of child abuse is without equal in the religious community.
why keep these forms secret?.
We are grateful that people like you have the courage to expose this evil cult. Keep the good work and we are next to you borther and sister
i feel that the apostate's claims that rutherford was a drunk to be far fetched.
on the one hand, they claim that he was so drunk that the brothers at bethel shipped him to san diego to beth sarim, where he stayed drunk out of his mind, then on the other hand, they claimed that he ruled the society with an iron fist, that he was a dictator.
no drunk could have ruled the society like a dictator.
Will you give us a break Renaia...the Olyn Molin case is a REAL FACT about Booze Jo he was abusive and had a problem with booze...end of story...
I just go really-really tired hearing the same old crap from people like you...the easy way is to blame the "apostates"...
WT has destroyed thousands of lifes in many ways, WT is guilty for false prophesies, dogmas that they change from time to time, scandals starting from their first president Russell, just to name a few, and all you can say is the "bitter apostates"...
GIVE US BREAK....
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does wt demand an act of wickedness to prove loyalty to the institution?.
is shunning a wicked act of revenge?.
Mary I would add also in your comment:
The primary scripture the Society uses for justification in this doctrine is found in 1 Corinthians 5:11 which says:
"But now I am writing you to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man."
The scripture cited above in 1 Corinthians is clear that a person with whom the congregation should not mix company is one who is:
Since WT are completely hidding the original Greek text of this scripture here is another point to add: In the Original Greek text it says for mixing-sinanamignyete...and is the mixing of 2 compents to have ONE...
So in the Greek scriptures when we have the word sinanamignyete it has to do with the Holy Communion. This is the only time when the Congregation becomes ONE when they share the mystery of Jesus Flesh and Blood.
In other words this is what Apostle Paul told: If anyone has gone through serious sin you will not allow to the person to share with you Jesus blood and flesh. Simple as that. And this what the Orthodox Apostolic Church is doing ever since, and there is not even a Biblical evidence that the first Christian Congregation acted like WT does. The Church is a place of spiritual healing for the sinners, not a place of condemnation and hate like WT is
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does wt demand an act of wickedness to prove loyalty to the institution?.
is shunning a wicked act of revenge?.
It is indeed an act of revenge. WT has become a CLUB, and if you want to be member of that club you have to blindly obey their rules, while Jesus has shown unconditional love, WT's followers are doing exactly the opposite. Their friendship and love is with terms and conditions. You have their love as long as you are part of their club...
And Reniaa can you tell me IF the WT ever disfellowshiped a person for being GREEDY??? Why they are selective in Apostle's Paul council? DO YOU KNOW ANY JW that was disfellowshiped for greedeness??
I can tell you from my 33 years of expierience as a JW, and 8 of them as a Regular pioneer, MS, and elder, that NO one will get disfellowshiped for greed!!!
In my cong we had JW who were millioners and they keep expanding their business activities despite the fact of being wealthy. So how can you define a greedy person? Is there any limit of the money and property that a person should own?
Why did Jesus asked that rich young man to sell ALL of his property, give it to the pour and follow him?
I guess the reason WT will not disfellowship you for being greed is because they are the ULTIMATE greedy Organization on earth. Their greed for glory, power and money are beyond any limits. Besides what would you expect from an organization that replace Jesus for salvation, and in order to be saved you have to get baptized in "God's spirit directed organization"....