Many leave because WT is so tight. Don't do this, don't go there, don't, don't, don't. For me it was the failed prophesy of the Generation. I quit school during the mid 80's to become pioneer and save the world, because the generation wouldn't pass. Unfortunately for me and many like me are paying the price for following a false prophet
JustHuman14
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Seven Reasons Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are Leaving Their Religion.
by Hairyhegoat inthese are good comments to consider enjoy!.
jehovah's witnesses who leave their religion, do so for many different reasons.
here are seven.. watchtower prophecies and dates for armageddon have failed repeatedly.
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Which type of "Apostate" is worse? An Atheist/Agnostic or one who joins a New Organized Religion?
by QuestioningEverything insorry, i posted this in another section.
meant to put it here.. just wondering which kind is worse to active jw's?
my aunt used to be a jw but now she is a mormon.
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JustHuman14
The one who dares t join another religion. That's the worst one, because it is like going back to Babylon the Great Harlot, caught by Satan and Demons and become their tool, for sure a person like that is possed by Satan.
So if you wish to leave JW's try to avoid telling them that you will join another religion.....
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1st Cen. Christianity - One Organization
by StandFirm inhere is the promised debate.
the subject is whether or not god has an organization.
i'll start things simply:.
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The Early Christians did not have any central administration. In fact we find the opposite.
- The first council took place in Jerusalem (Acts 15) in order to define if Gentile Christians should follow the Hebrew law of circumcision. The elders of Jerusalem, the Apostles, gathered in order to settle this matter, since Apostle Paul was facing a huge issue by the Hebrew Christians due to the fact that he was baptizing the Gentiles without circumcision.
- Apostle Paul didn't need any approval from any central Christian administration. After he converted to Christianity (at that time called Odos-The Way) he started preaching Jesus Gospel the Nations.
- In Antioch Church, they decided to change the name of Jesus followers known at that time as Odos- The Way, to Christians. Then the rest of the Christian congregations accepted their new name.
- After the end of the first council in Jerusalem, Apostle Paul proceeded with the circumcision of Timothy, actually he disobeyed the final commandments of the Council. Still there were no sanctions against him.
Christian church faced for 300 years severe persecution by the Romans, but beside the persecution Christianity survived. It was the message of the New God, who speaks about love and equality. This message was spread out due to the common Hellenic language and culture of the Roman Empire and that is why we also call the New Testament - The Greek Scriptures.
Constantine saw this new religion as a tool to unify and keep the vast Roman Empire together. The Nicea Council, although he was present, the Bishops defined Jesus substance. What was told there by the Bishops it was what was considered by the Church for the last 300 years. We have numbers of Early Church writings from various Bishops, like the Letter from Ignatius to the Church of Magnisius, around 120 A.D that clearly showed Jesus Divinity, and what did Christians held and believe.
The Church after coming out from the catacombs was finally free to build Temples to worship Jesus like the magnificent Temple Of Saint Sophia in Constantinople, the Capitol of the East Roman Empire. The symbol of the Ecumenical Patriarch was the 2 headed Eagle, pointing that the Roman Empire has West and East.
Unfortunately this unified Church came to an end at 1080A.D, when Schisma occurred with the Orthodox Apostolic Church and the Roman Catholic Church. The great issue of Filiogue still separates the East and West Church along with Infallible of Pope. At the Orthodox Church the Ecumenical Patriarch it is consider equal among the rest of the Bishops of the Church and he is only the presiding overseer of the Church, something that the Orthodox Church correctly couldn't accept Pope to be above all.
Indeed the East Roman Empire-wrongly called Byzantine by many, lasted for more than a 1000 years, from 325 A.D when Constantine moved the capitol of Roman Empire to Constantinople and ended at 1453 A.D when Ottoman Turks siege Constantinople, a city that was ready to fall due to the previous 2 Crusades that supposed to free the Holy Land, but actually they destroyed the structure of the East Roman Empire.
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GLOBAL FLOOD . . . Did it Really Happen?
by sizemik inthis question became an off-topic sidetrack in another thread.
i thought it might be worth some debate so posted here .
the debate is basically between mainstream geological understanding of the earth's history and "young earth creationism" in particular with how the evidence relates to the occurrence of a global flood in the recent past.. a couple of points from the yec website www.icr.org are raised as examples in order to kick things off .
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The Mesopoatamian Gilgamesh Epic was written long before the Hebrew Bible and discribes the Flood, similar with Noah-Gilgamesh. Besides Abraham came from that region, so he carried the traditions of the area.
Indeed it happened, around 3500 B.C, when Bosporus straits had natural land barrier that collapsed and it was to separating the Black Sea, at that time dry land, with the Aegean Sea. Plus we have the last Ice Age, 10,500 years ago when ice melt and regional floods occured in the Globe, that is why we have the story being repeated all over the world.
The idea of World wide flood it is rediculous and stupid.
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Do Active Witnesses Find Meetings Exciting?
by Band on the Run inkh meetings were utter hell.
the boredom, particularly for a child, was awful.
i feel it was a form of child abuse.
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Bored to death...........
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BUSTED in RUSSIA JW DESTROY FAMILYS
by DannyHaszard inphoto from www.newsru.com
jehovahs witnesses claim moscow police broke up prayer meeting ...
mosnews, russia - 11 minutes ago .
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This kind of actions, only reinforced WT and GB teachings that WE ARE PERSECUDED, because we are the only true religion. Remember Booze Jo? He got jailed because of his agressive way towards U.S Goverment. This boosted JW's considering that it was Satan's attack.
Any form of religious persecution against mind control cults it will bring the opposite outcome. I agree that they are a cult, and many like me, ex-jw disfellowshiped ones, our rights are violated by the WT, but still I strongly disagree with this kind of actions.
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Is the Governing Body Guilty or not guilty of 1975 speculations going too far?
by Terry inthe most disengenuous aspect of "official" pronouncements from the society can be identified.. it is in the positioning of the speaker/writer as a passive onlooker commenting on exterior happenings.. this bystander mode is clever by half.. why?
it spoon feeds information without taking any active personal responsibility.. sort of an "oh gee, wow--look at all this going on" stance, while taking a stand-offish tone, is printed in the official magazines and books approved for publication by the governing body as mouthpiece of jehovah.. think about that.
it is insidious incitement without responsibility.. the person (likely fred franz) who crafted these bulletins had gone through several previous incidents of failure and disappointment and was well aware of the effect of any speculations upon jehovah's witnesses in the past.. this makes what was printed all the more calculated and irresponsible in the extreme.. let us parse the language printed by the watchtower society with careful attention to what is said and left unsaid.. w68 8/15 p. 494 why are you looking forward to 1975?.
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I was very young during that era in the WT, around 8. What I can recall, it was the fact that all JW's expecting that something huge would happened in 1975: Armageddon
As a kid I couldn't understand why JW's are so exited for 1975. I recall my dad and JW's talking to each other that we are indeed at the time of the end, and we will have to endure few months more until the New System comes!!!
You could feel it in the air, JW's are waiting for the End, and this is not far. The questions is who create amongst JW's this expectation? The answer is clear: THE GOVERNING BODY
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Hi Robdar, long time to see you, since I do not often post like I used to do. Plus after loosing my first nickname justhuman I feel that a part of me is gone within the forum. 7 years of posts is a long time from 2001-2009.
Any how I believe that the Western Countries are responsible for what is happening to those parts of the World since I'm living in the Meditteranean basin. We have a huge problem of illegal immigrants, most of them from Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Kurdistan, Pakistan, Afganistan, just to name a few. Our Goverments, they have selective memory and double standards. Why they strike in places that usually have natural resources, and they use a smoke screen "human rights"?
Imagine you are a child in Palestine. You are watching the Israel tanks wipe out your house, kill your father,brothers, sisters. You have nothing in the world and all you are thinking is to revenge those who killed your family. You grow up with the Muslims radical ideas, that if you kill an unbeliever you will go in heaven, you get bomb find a crowdy place in Israel, or somewere in the Western World, you explode and you kill as many as you can...
Our Goverments are the ones who create this chaos. Instead of helping them to develop as humans we push them into the dark ages of mankind. We are only using their sources and as long as they are Ok we are fine. Since US and their allies care so much about democracy and freedom, why don't they invate, Saudia Arabia, Qatar, Pakistan, countries that have a severe issue with human rights? Why don't they invate in Turkey a country that illegaly invated Cyprus in 1974, did ethnic cleansing of 200,000 Cypriots(including Turkish and Greek)war crimes, and still holding 37% of Cyprus? Why they don't say anything about the Kurds in Turkey, 20 Millions that their rights are violeted, thousands of Kurdish village vanished from the face of the earth by the Turkish army?
Is the West that creates radical Muslims and it want stop unless our Goverments change the way of acting and thinking...
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How come it was Our Kingdom Ministry then it was Our Kingdom Service then it was changed back to Our Kingdom Ministry?
by hoser init was okm in the old days 50s and 60s then it was our kingdom service in the 70's then they changed it back again??????.
this is the publication used at the service meeting thursday nights showing how to preach in the territory..
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It has to do with the LIGHT...
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WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1
by Quentin inam currently reading this book.
would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.
excerpts, printed by waking lion press.
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JustHuman14
The Bible is a copy of Sumerian myths, especially the Gilgamesh Epic, combined with the history of the Semetic Nation Israel, mixed with Egyptian, Babylonian, and Greek theology.
Indeed the Catholic Church along with the Orthodox(since at that time we had One United Church the East and West Rome) they will have face the new Books that archaiology is finding lately, starting with the Gnostic Gospels that they rejected at Nicaia in 330 A.D.and then completely vanished at the Biblical Canon that was set in 375 A.D by Athanasius.
Why they reject the Gospel of Mary Magdalene? The Gospel of Judas, the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Joseph? Why Early Christian Church had women as priests?