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In order to be funny, humor must be based in reality. The facts are there for you to look up if you want to.
In 1993 two researchers (Barry A. Kosmin & Seymor P. Lachman) conducted a survey to discover religious trends within the United States (National Survey of Religious Identification). In this survey the gentleman surveyed 113,000 Americans. According to their survey, 30 religious groups were surveyed (900 Jehovah's Witnesses included). The survey showed that 67.6% of white JWs graduated from high school, as opposed to 80.9% of all the other religions. Of the religious groups the Jehovah's Witnesses ranked 30th with only 4.7% of the responding JWs identifying themselves as college graduates.

That would explain the

"Maybe it's an IQ thing, the preponderance of Witnesses aren't that bright"

part of Pork Chops comment. However,

"so percentage wise the preponderance of Xs ought to be liberals. Sounds logical to me."

is just another uncalled for slam on liberals, for which Pork Chop seems fond of, warranted or not.

Had someone made an unwarranted attack on conservatives in this thread I would have understood his reply.

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Stripped perhaps but not shamed - Canadian ExJW

by ignored_one in

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/articlenews/tpstory/lac/20040325/facts25/tpcomment/features .

ten years ago i sat in a dark room, smoking cigarettes, flipping through an old photo album filled with pictures from my childhood.

i stopped at a picture of my father holding my tiny hand in his.

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Just spreading the news I found using Google's news search.

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Liberal Equals Ex-JW

by patio34 in

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something i've noticed on this board is that there seem to be many more liberal-left types than conservative-right types.

what do you think of my following theories?

in the 70s, many converts to jw-dom were influenced by the anti-establishment philosophy and anti-viet nam war.

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Pork Chop,
That's a funny statement.

Sounds more like an un-necessary insult.

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Stripped perhaps but not shamed - Canadian ExJW

by ignored_one in

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/articlenews/tpstory/lac/20040325/facts25/tpcomment/features .

ten years ago i sat in a dark room, smoking cigarettes, flipping through an old photo album filled with pictures from my childhood.

i stopped at a picture of my father holding my tiny hand in his.

ignored_one

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040325/FACTS25/TPComment/Features

Ten years ago I sat in a dark room, smoking cigarettes, flipping through an old photo album filled with pictures from my childhood. I stopped at a picture of my father holding my tiny hand in his. Beside the picture was written, "Hand in hand with daddy forever." I remember thinking how different my life was now to what it had been at the time of that picture. I ran my fingers reminiscently over the page and wished that things could be the way that they once were. I knew that that was not possible, though, and so I sat motionless in the dark crying, waiting to fall asleep. I sat alone and waited to die.

When I say that I "waited to die," I really did. I was waiting for the actual physical end of my life. Filled with loneliness and despair, I had rationalized committing suicide and set my plan into action. I had gone to my medicine cabinet and grabbed everything that I knew I shouldn't. The pills, the capsules, the tablets -- I swallowed them all, and then I wrote my suicide note. Misshapen letters scrawled across the paper spelled out that I was tired; that I just wanted to go to sleep and never wake up. I then sat on the couch, waves of blackness crashing over me, when suddenly the telephone rang. Had I really wanted to die, I would have. I would have ignored the persistent ringing. I chose, instead, to answer the phone and save myself. I chose to put the pieces of my life back together.
Had you asked me prior to my own attempt why people commit suicide, I could have listed a number of reasons without being able to narrow it down to only one. I get it now. Contrary to popular belief, it's not about a person's being disturbed or unbalanced, insane or irrational. The road to suicide is paved with traumatic loss and unresolved pain.
I refer to my traumatic loss as "the death of my family and friends." If I close my eyes, I can see the moment of that tragedy as if it were yesterday.
At 17, I -- the ever-pleasing, never-defiant child -- decided that I no longer wanted to be a member of the religious faith in which I had been raised. I no longer wanted to be a Jehovah's Witness. The day that my secret was revealed, I sat across the table from two church elders who would decide my fate. My father sat with them.
The elders had learned that I had sinned and they wanted me to repent. They wanted me to say that I was sorry for getting drunk. I desperately wanted to tell them what they wanted to hear but it would have been a lie and I no longer wanted to live a lie. So I looked at them solemnly and said, "I am sorry for what you will have to do, but I am not sorry for what I have done."
There was nothing more to be said. The heavy silence that fell between them and me signalled that everyone knew what my pronouncement meant. I would be ex-communicated, my parents (the ones who are supposed to love you unconditionally) would disown me, and my only friends -- also Jehovah's Witnesses -- would turn their backs on me.
People look at me funny when I recount the death of my family and friends. They cannot relate, and so they cannot know the tremendous loss and pain that I feel, even to this day. I no longer want to end my life, though. I have left the long, dark, lonely road that leads to suicide and I am grateful. This did not happen in one fell swoop. Instead, the transformation in my life happened one step, and one day, at a time.
For the first 17 years of my life who and what I was had been defined in terms of my religion. When I was stripped of that identity I did not know who or what to be. The most important thing I came to understand, though, was that even though others had labelled me a sinner, an apostate, and unworthy of membership within their group, they were wrong. I define my own self-worth, no one else does. I define who I am, the type of person I am, and the type of life that I will live regardless of what has been said about me or done to me.
In the moment when I had uttered those life-altering words, "I am sorry for what you will have to do, but I am not sorry for what I have done," I knew that I would rather live my life alone than live the life that others wanted me to. For me, being able to look myself in the face each day with respect and dignity finally became more important than having the approval of others.
I used to think that I "lost," that being true to myself cost me more than it was worth. I was wrong, though. I won. I won because I was faithful to what I believed in. I won because I did not compromise myself. I won because I rose above what was done to me. I won because I survived.
My father once told me that two people could stand atop the same mountain but that the view, and what it meant to be there, would be different for each person. The one who had needed to fight to reach the top would appreciate it far more than the person who had not. I could never have imagined that I would have to climb alone.
Yes, I have struggled, and yes, I have reached the top. The view, though, is marred and it always will be. Something is missing.
I wonder what my father's view is like. I'm sure that something is missing, too.
Monica Truman lives in Waterloo, Ont.

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The Passion of Brian

by drahcir yarrum in

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i haven't yet seen the movie the passion of christ but understand that it is a powerful movie for those who are believers.

i haven't been a jw for many years but wondered what the organizations position is on the bros seeing this movie.

does anyone have any insight on this?

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Looks like they're re-releasing Life of Brian for it's 25th anniversary.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/3563405.stm

Python film to challenge Passion Monty Python's film The Life of Brian is to return to US cinemas next month following the success of The Passion of the Christ.
The Biblical satire will be re-released in Los Angeles, New York and other US cities to mark its 25th anniversary.
Adverts will challenge Mel Gibson's blockbuster with the lines "Mel or Monty?", "The Passion or the Python?"
Distributor Rainbow said it hoped the film would "serve as an antidote to all the hysteria about Mel's movie".
The Life of Brian follows a Jewish character from Nazareth who is worshipped as the Messiah then crucified by Romans.
We decided this is an important time to re-release this film
Henry Jaglom
Rainbow Film Company It was condemned as blasphemous before its original release, although Monty Python said it was intended as a spoof on Bible films and intolerance rather than Christianity.
The film could not be completed until former Beatle George Harrison stepped in to finance it after EMI Films withdrew, fearing it was too controversial.
Rainbow president Henry Jaglom said: "We decided this is an important time to re-release this film, to provide some counter-programming to The Passion."
He said the surviving members of the Monty Python comedy team "all agreed this was a good time" to bring back the film and would help promote it.
Mr Jaglom, whose partner John Goldstone produced the original film, said trailers for the comedy would start to appear in cinemas on Good Friday.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/entertainment/film/3563405.stm

Published: 2004/03/24 09:42:06 GMT

© BBC MMIV

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Question from Readers,WT MARCH 15, 2004 page 28

by badboy in

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whose feet were touched when zipporah cut off her son's 4skin in an attempt 2 set matters straight?.

it was the angel of jehovah who had the power 2 put thew uncircumcised son 2 death.logically,then,zipporah would have caused the 4skin 2 touch the angel's feet,presenting it 2 him as evidence that she had complied with the covenant.. i understand from somewhere,possibly my niv study bible that the word used 4 feet can also mean genitals, there4 did zipporah put it on the angels thingy.. any comments?

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Elsewhere,

Th15 15 teh l33t35t thr34d 3v3r!!!!

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