Posts by palmtree67

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

palmtree67

I was pretty disappointed when I found out about her, too.

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

palmtree67

Chariklo: I speak the truth

Oh, really?

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

palmtree67

Edit:

Never mind, I see angharad is on top of it.

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Mother Teresa attacked by Atheist/Anostic group -

by james_woods in

while i am no fan of mother teresa after reading some of the revealed facts about her life and work - i thought this was just a little out of the realm of polite conversation (but was interesting):.

atheist group at dartmouth plans anti mother teresa event.. .

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?id=4503.

palmtree67

Anonymous: unnecessary deaths, improper medical and attempts at rebranding their image in the name of religious freedom.

Yes. Believers here have no problem denouncing the wt for those things, but god forbid if an atheist denounces mother Theresa.....

The question I see isn't : why are atheists denouncing mother Theresa, .......it is : why aren't believers?

And just for the record, I knew all this about mother Theresa when I was a witness.

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How important is evidence to your world view?

by snare&racket in

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how important is evidence to your world view?.

if you had to make a decision on a fact being true, what would be the deciding factor for you... your feelings and faith, scriptural statement or evidence presented by modern science?.

would scripture trump evidence, or would faith trump scripture etc .

palmtree67

I like evidence. I'm a "checks and balances", make a chart or pie graph, alphabetical order kind of gal.

Pro: this kind of organized, non-emotional type evidence makes me a hard person to fool.

Con: I need more than just an "exception to the rule" to change my mind, and that sometimes makes me seem rigid.

This is an interesting question. It made me think about what made me stay in the witnesses even after I had doubts.

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Atheists and Theists... what do you want from us?

by tec in

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this is a spin from palm's thread on a truce.

but i think, instead of getting people to sugget ways that a truce could work... how about we list answers to this:.

atheists: what do you want from theists?.

palmtree67

Well, Glad I had another peek over there this morning, and you're right - one person questioned AGuest on her vision and her prophecy.

And they were soundly thumped by her, told that they just don't want others to be happy, called a Pharisee, and warned of the consequences of going against miracles of holy spirit.

It looks like they have left now and won't be back.

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Atheists and Theists... what do you want from us?

by tec in

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this is a spin from palm's thread on a truce.

but i think, instead of getting people to sugget ways that a truce could work... how about we list answers to this:.

atheists: what do you want from theists?.

palmtree67

Chappy: Re - the super-secret forum :

a place for like-minded people approached these things critically, could ask the questions that needed answers and could be answered, and to decide what to do with the questions that could not be answered. The forum is biased, that's for sure, but we actually do have quite a bit of respect who approach this part of their life intelligently. Of course, the rules don't allow for voices, visions, or personal revelation, because such is not useful on the internet. The type of non-atheists that benefit by this structure do not easily fall for anonymous claims. But they are certainly free to discuss it the way that works for them.

I'm very glad you posted this, because that is exactly what it is! I'm going to say this at athe risk of "promoting" a forum.....

I feel I am benefiting from both forums - this one and Chappy's.

I can't even say I've had "better answers" on the Secularist forum - I just feel free-r to explore there. Discussion is never stymied by the claim: "Jesus told me you're wrong". I mean.....where do you go from there....really?? Can't prove you're right, can't prove you're wrong.

And yes, I was sucked in by the JW's.....I don't want to be sucked in again! So I approach things differently. More logically and less emotionally.

Like others, I've looked at Tec and Shelby's new site, and I find (personally), no one questions, no one challenges. Shelby says she got a "vision", everyone praises it. As Sab said, they accept it is a "FACT" that Shelby talks to God, .......I'm sorry.....I just need more evidence. I haven't seen that so far.

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Atheists and Theists... what do you want from us?

by tec in

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friends

this is a spin from palm's thread on a truce.

but i think, instead of getting people to sugget ways that a truce could work... how about we list answers to this:.

atheists: what do you want from theists?.

palmtree67

I'm neither believer, nor atheist.

My experience as a person who is searching, though, is this:

Atheists don't care about my "believer" leanings.

I feel more accepted and safer and supported as I search, with the atheists.

I have no issue with the non-atheists, except that on-line, I find they are more militant and persecution complex-y than in real life. The constant arguing over the minutia of words and phrases is so much that the actual point is lost.

When I disagree with or question the atheists, its okay. They encourage me to find the answer.

When I disagree with a believer.......I'm "angry", "lack faith", "not receptive to holy spirit", "afraid", "not trying hard enough to HEAR".....etc. Makes me want to give up.