Posts by Mosesjoel

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Something creepy during a study

by kurtbethel in

so, the local jw troops have stepped up my study because i have had a difficult time swallowing the "truth", and have sent a ms to speed things along.

he mentioned satan tempting eve, and i said i had never read that.

sure, so there is a serpent tempting eve in genesis 3, but no satan.

Mosesjoel

I am fully understood now, why after 1000 year reign so many will turn their backs to Jehovah and side with Satan,

I could say Christianity is one big cult also

Pentacosts, Catholics, Mormon, 7th Day etc

For me I just want to know what the Bible really teaches but I guess most just don't really care now adays.

Find it good to find fault and do what mankind is good at, that is contradict eachother and make God a devine laughing-stock

I don't want to be like that, but I guess most do.

I will stay at home in the year 3,000 and something , when you lot decide to thave a demonstration against Jehovah lol.

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Something creepy during a study

by kurtbethel in

so, the local jw troops have stepped up my study because i have had a difficult time swallowing the "truth", and have sent a ms to speed things along.

he mentioned satan tempting eve, and i said i had never read that.

sure, so there is a serpent tempting eve in genesis 3, but no satan.

I am completely nuetral on this matter, my wife is JW and I have been to all these websites JW's this and that, but all at my wifes congregation are lovely ordinary people, what really puts me off is unscriptual teaching that Christianity has been offering so long.

I am really amazed there is no forum rulers here who check some of the offence to Jehovah which goes on here.

I got out of one Christian forum today because of their arrogance and hated me quoting NWT to them and telling them some scriptual knowledge which has contradicted them with their own scriptur translations.

I really hope that I will not find more negativity against JW's and their beleifs. I really hate it.

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How many different kinds of land animals are there in the World? (Noah)

by asilentone in

i just wonder if 2 of each kind of all the land animals can fit the ark?

do you know how big the ark was?

maybe someone should try to bring 2 animals of each kind in the ark to see if it is possible.

Mosesjoel

I read it, and that really makes sense, if The Flood now was localized, Noah then would of had a commandment now to save m/f of each animal indigious to that area, so The Koalas and kangaroos were not there as Australia was unaffected, same as Goffurs and llamas from The Americas

A good discussion would be now what type of mammals were around in Middle East/Biblical regions which had to be saved by the Ark

Camel etc etc.

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Why Christendom, believe in an 'unpure' God. NWT v's KJV

by Mosesjoel in

i have seen in the kjv which most christians use who are not jw's.

and seen so many contradictions, here is one:.

isaiah 45:6that they may know from the rising of the sun and from the west that there is none besides me.

Mosesjoel

Leavingwt,

NIV has actually corrected KJV also and uses 'DISASTER' instead, which does mean Calamity.

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Why Christendom, believe in an 'unpure' God. NWT v's KJV

by Mosesjoel in

i have seen in the kjv which most christians use who are not jw's.

and seen so many contradictions, here is one:.

isaiah 45:6that they may know from the rising of the sun and from the west that there is none besides me.

Mosesjoel

I have seen in The KJV which most Christians use who are not JW's

and seen so many contradictions, here is one:

Isaiah 45:6 that they may know from the rising of the sun and from the west that there is none besides Me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I, the LORD, do all these things. (KJV)

The UTMOST FACT is God did not create evil, if he did he would not be The One True God of Christianity, who cannot look upon evil, except sinful nature, and condone evil.
If HE did that whould be saying

'' Satan I have created you to be my Enemy and be completely Evil.

The NWT our scriptures teach an intire different View on God

Isaiah 45:6-7 In order that people may know from the rising of the sun and from its setting that there is none besides me. I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.
Forming light and creating darkness, making peace and creating calamity, I, Jehovah, am doing all these things.

That is what we JW's translated and it was meant to mean CALAMITY

CALAMITY (noun) an event causing great and often sudden damage or distress: a disaster. (New Oxford Dictionary)

Noe bible teachings explain God has a just temper, like The Flood and Sodom etc.
That is Calamity in the bible the otherside to him, a creater and destroyer, nothing mentioned in proper scripture about him creating Evil.

Is there any more really good contradictions that the KJV has which means complete nonsence.

I want to see more from you Guys..... Tony

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The Trinity: God the Father and God The Son

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

i had been discussing the trinity with someone the other day (hence the topic on i am) and this person alluded to the idea that jesus was saying he himself was jehovah.. well, it occurred to me last night:.

in the doctrine of the trinity, isn't jehovah considered god the father and jesus is god the son?

or am i not understanding the doctrine properly?.

Mosesjoel

IronClaw

That is a verry good verse, even I never looked into that one explaining the pagan beleif of a false trinity,

I always used Jesus Baptism. but this is so far better too the truth of no trinity

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Something creepy during a study

by kurtbethel in

so, the local jw troops have stepped up my study because i have had a difficult time swallowing the "truth", and have sent a ms to speed things along.

he mentioned satan tempting eve, and i said i had never read that.

sure, so there is a serpent tempting eve in genesis 3, but no satan.

Mosesjoel

I am being studied, but I find it mostly positive, and have a good teacher to explain everything to it's simplest way.

Ialways come up with awkward ideas and then explained sensibly about it, such as alien lifeon other planets, where are the dinosaurs mentioned etc etc, and yes the bible can easily support such statements if understood.

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DID NOAH HAVE PROBLEMS WITH METHANE OR OTHER GASES ON THE ARK?

by badboy in

any ideas?.

Mosesjoel

The methane bit, made me laugh, I am sure plenty animals were farting alot, but at the same time , I don't think so!!!

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The Trinity: God the Father and God The Son

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

i had been discussing the trinity with someone the other day (hence the topic on i am) and this person alluded to the idea that jesus was saying he himself was jehovah.. well, it occurred to me last night:.

in the doctrine of the trinity, isn't jehovah considered god the father and jesus is god the son?

or am i not understanding the doctrine properly?.

Mosesjoel

I am new here and happy to have found this forum, I have wasted so much time on so called Christian Forums debating this topic with no avail.

Especially the classic scripture of The baptism of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 3:16 After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God’s spirit coming upon him.
17 Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.”

Too someone who believes God is Jesus then this would occur:
Then Jesus went into a trance, and left his body in spirit form and then acted as the voice in Heaven, which is impossible

You have a vague understanding of the Bible, my friend.
Jesus is indeed very much mistaken as God but of God he has only in the LIKENESS and PERSONALITY of him, but seperate beings regardless, As he is The Son of God.

That is why when Jesus says in the Scriptures,
You have seen the Father through me,
My Father and I are as one.
These are explainations that he is the closest in all creation which resembles The Father as he has his Likeness and Personality. He is i extreme close UNION with God which has confused alot of Christians regardless.
Also mentioned Jesus refers he is not equal to The Father and submissive to him,
Prayers he makes are to someone else 'The Father, not back to himself, that would make Jesus crazy, which he is indeed not, Like having multiple person disorder. But again The Bible proves he had no mental illness and Jesus sincerely prayed to His Father in heaven.

I have a 5 year son Moses, he has the likeness of me but he isnt me, Otherwise he would be like a conjoined twin and he is not. Jesus is not a conjoined twin of God also. But also his Son.

These forums now object to NWT scripture, maybe in my opinion of the ostrich with it's head in the sand, happy with what they beleive but when proved wrong go into complete defence and denial.

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How many different kinds of land animals are there in the World? (Noah)

by asilentone in

i just wonder if 2 of each kind of all the land animals can fit the ark?

do you know how big the ark was?

maybe someone should try to bring 2 animals of each kind in the ark to see if it is possible.

Mosesjoel

What I understand is the quote 'of their kind', so that narrows it down even further. A lion for exemple of the Feline family or their kind would of under God's way of recreating the species died in the flood, let us say The Lion was allowed but The Tiger was left to perish outside the Ark/The Lion would reproduce a new feline family of species through God's power and tigers and leopards, and Jaguars etc would be the Lion's temperary offspring. Another possiblity, could be that one female tiger and one male lion was allowed on board to create Tions, or Ligers, ventually leading to new species of feline we have to today/

The Dog family has had been manipulated by man for many 100's of years, st.bernard is exact cousin of a terrier, can mate everything, same species but different breeds, God had that power extended after the Flood to all mammals to recreate new species from birth.

This is my own view on a logical explaination