Posts by Violia

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Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

by adamah in

there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

code ann.

166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

Violia

while you all are busy trashing Texas , there are a number of other states that have the same ( or similar) laws. I believe I read around 32 other states , same laws. Texas is doing the best they can, this is not an easy situation. Hopefully it will go before the higher courts. I don't see Comrade Obama telling Texas what to do.

I love this state with all its warts. We really do mean, " don't mess with Texas". Love it.

"You may all go to hell, I'll go to Texas." Crockett

No state Taxes-- all you guys in NYC who are going to be taxed out the wazu to spread the wealth ( congrats on lol new mayor)

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exJW Psychology 105--"Are You Ready for The Big A?"

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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i don't know how many others have gotten this question that i got recently.

i wonder if it was the co that thought this would be a great question to try to reactivate someone like me:.

at the time, i was kinda blindsided by the question and gave just an okay response.

Violia

I used to be ready every time a thunder storm or tornado was imminent. Then more than one elder told me A ways not real, ( like the horses in Revelation are not really coming out of heaven). it was like believing you will die and go to heaven or hell. it was a hope and that is all. Once I understood that hope is just hope and going to heaven is just as good a hope as a paradise earth-I stopped worrying about the big A. Even if it is real it is certainly not like the wts predicted. I used have fun thinking about the Apocalyptic Angels of Death. What a stressful job. I mean, this is their first big Apocalypse and they will probably go in pairs. ( one is a trainee) I plan on putting some lambs blood over my door post. It might at least confuse them. If they are slackers like jws when it comes to field service, they will see the blood over my door post and put me down as Not Home and then take a coffee break.

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Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

by adamah in

there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

code ann.

166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

Violia

These ( the Texas case and the California one) are troubling sad situations.

I feel sure the hospital in Texas will prevail, or at least be found to be acting in the patients ( baby) best interest. Doing the best you can under the situation as you understand it is a defense. The hospital is doing the best it can to protect the alive baby and giving baby a chance to progress to birth. This may all be a non issue b/c so much could happen between now and when the baby could be safely delivered.

The case in California reeks of malpractice and I am interested if the family sues. ( for possible malpractice that lead to her death after a routine tonsillectomy. )

Ms. Munioz case is also troubling in that no one really knows why she was unconscious on the floor. I queses they will know on the autopsy ( when that happens) but seems a bit suspicious and I find the husband's attitude troubling.

It is all very sad but let it proceed to the higher courts . One thing is for sure, Pro/choice and Pro/Life people are unlikely to ever agree. I am Pro Life but do recognize situations where abortion could be appropriate.( rape/incest/serious health issues of mother or baby).

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When A Fellow Apostate Goes Insane, What Can We Do To Help?

by RottenRiley in

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i don't know how to handle the situation with a fellow apostate who has lost their mind due to this evil cult.

this guy is texting many of the elders under alias of six different cell-phones no less than twenty times a day.. .

we had to change the locks at the kingdom hall because he was still stalking and prowling around the hall after advertsing he had left the kingdom hall and we were all no less than mind-dead zombies sucking out of the life of thinking individuals.

Violia

I will try again. Read Simon's post. Also, forget the word apostate, he is in need of medical /mental help. Also, I find it strange that the BOE would not call the police if he is an "apostate" to them. Unless he has dirt on them-- that has happened. Odd they aren't calling in the cops- Very odd.

Call the police or encourage them to. The life you save might be his and maybe yours or a child sitting innocently at the kh.

Rereading your first post , if true, this man has some DIRT on the BOE. They don't care a flip about someone they consider an apostate- . They could be hiding some things they have done to him or his family, forget that nonsense about reproach on Jehovah. They'd not hesitate to call police unless they might also get in trouble.

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Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

by adamah in

there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

code ann.

166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

Violia

Ditto what Sooner7 said.

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When A Fellow Apostate Goes Insane, What Can We Do To Help?

by RottenRiley in

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i don't know how to handle the situation with a fellow apostate who has lost their mind due to this evil cult.

this guy is texting many of the elders under alias of six different cell-phones no less than twenty times a day.. .

we had to change the locks at the kingdom hall because he was still stalking and prowling around the hall after advertsing he had left the kingdom hall and we were all no less than mind-dead zombies sucking out of the life of thinking individuals.

Violia

RR, the apostate title is wrong here, this mans sounds like he should be in a psych unit. Forget the term apostate, that is the Wts labeling anyone who leaves and loses it. he has just LOST IT and need medical/psych help. Someone will do it anyway b/c at the rate he's going he'll hurt someone. Then he might go to pinion.

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When A Fellow Apostate Goes Insane, What Can We Do To Help?

by RottenRiley in

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friends

i don't know how to handle the situation with a fellow apostate who has lost their mind due to this evil cult.

this guy is texting many of the elders under alias of six different cell-phones no less than twenty times a day.. .

we had to change the locks at the kingdom hall because he was still stalking and prowling around the hall after advertsing he had left the kingdom hall and we were all no less than mind-dead zombies sucking out of the life of thinking individuals.

Violia

I saw someone go postal at a meeting once and no one tried to stop him. Real friends would drag your a** out of the KH and take you to an ER if necessary.

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Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

by adamah in

there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

code ann.

166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

Violia

Oh for heavens sake, comatose, we are just having a discussion here. No one is telling the family what to do except the hospital the woman is in. It is a very sad situation.

There is no reason we can't bring feelings and emotions into the discussion. We are allowed to have them. We are not telling the family what to do, we are expressing our feelings.

A Judge will have to decide this case b/c if all we needed were laws, then we would only need someone who could READ. Judges interpret the meaning, and implications of the law.

Another thing, if they do find the baby is doing well, the father and grandparents may feel differently. If the baby survives to birth and is OK, imagine how they might feel then. I can't imagine them not wanting the baby. But if they don't for sure someone will.

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Dead pregnant woman forced to stay on life support, due to TX State law

by adamah in

there's an interesting medicolegal issue arising out of tx, a pregnant women who suffered a pulmonary embolism in november and died (when she was 14 weeks pregnant).. however, the body has been kept on life-support all this time (against her and her husband's wishes), due to an ambiguous tx state law (tex hs.

code ann.

166.049) which actually blocks the ability of the patient and family to decide:.

Violia

FHN I wish this forum had a LIKE button next to posts. I would so LIKE your post. I have been pg 3 times, 2 live births one miscarriage at 3 months. It is a baby from the moment you suspect you may be pg. It has life . I was devastated at the loss of my baby. It looked human and was human.

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10 Years out of the JW Organization- What I've Learned ( For what it's Worth)

by flipper in

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10 years ago i stopped attending jehovah's witness meetings for good.

walked out of the kingdom hall cold turkey never to return based on injustices i observed among others and myself at the hands of elders giving out not god's counsel but personal opinions as counsel .

some of them weren't even giving out wt society counsel- just personal opinions.

Violia

Flipper, thanks for encouraging kindness and tolerance. I wish we had a "sticky" when you open this board that says " tolerance and kindness are expected."I recall that "special" feeling too, we were aliens is a foreign nation-the wts said. The young woman who wrote" I'm perfect, you're doomed" said it in in a hilarious way but it was so true.

I may have missed it but have you and your son gone further looking for BF?