Ooooh.... I'd give them details! Just not the ones they'd be expecting.
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44Committee Meeting Wants Details, oh BS
by Leprechaun ini remember when i like a real stupid ass went to a committee meeting for enjoying committing so called immorality, when in my view i was making love and i enjoyed every dam minute of it.
well any way those stupid elders whom i knew personally for many years wanted to know every juicy (no pun intended) tid bit of what went on between me and this good friend of mine, a long time sister in good standing, i told them what the hell, you guys dont know what sex is!
you stupid asss!
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My Mother Says Matter of Factly "You're Gonna Die At Armageddon"
by minimus inwe were conversing and she said it like it was a fact that she simply has accepted.. i actually found it quite funny..
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Heaven
"You're Gonna Die At Armageddon". Hah! Not if you die before it comes. Which is far more likely to happen.
How long have they been trying to scare people with that?
Since inception. Which currently equates to 130+ years.
High Five Mastadon! Right On, Blondie. I find it very arrogant and blasphemous of these people to be speaking on behalf of God and Christ.
I did tell my Mom a couple of times there was no way I wanted to live in a world where women were subjugated so I didn't really care whether I made it through the Big A... and if I died before the Big A I didn't care if I was resurrected. She didn't like that. I told her the decision is out of my hands. We will all be judged. So I just try to be as good a person as I can. I'm not going to beat myself up for something I have no control over.
She even said a few weeks back not to have any children as they will die at armageddon to - charming eh?
Yeah... Rutherford said this back in 1938 and 1940 at a couple of DCs. "In the months before Armageddon...." At least he admitted he was an ass. Check out this quote from the May 22, 1969 Awake!, p.15:
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"
When one cries wolf too much, one is no longer believed.
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"Keeping the congregation clean"
by Chalam ini have just been reading another thread and thought about how importance the outward appearance is to jws.. however, god does not care for the exterior, he is concerned with what is at the core.
inner beauty is everasting.. 1 samuel 16:7 (new international version) .
7 but the lord said to samuel, "do not consider his appearance or his height, for i have rejected him.
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Another reason why I believe the WTS is being led by Satan.
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Hi I hope i am welcome
by cantleave inhi guys and gals,.
i am a hypocryte.
brought up in the "truth" but know its not.
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Heaven
Welcome, cantleave!
You said: But when the men who are suspossed to be shepherding the congregation do so in such a judgemental manner, often making accusations that that cannot be substantiated, so that they can feel important, I have great difficulty.
Between this and the fact that JWs are urged not to associate with their 'worldly' family members and that some are urged to 'kick their unbelieving children to the curb' is evidence that this organization is NOT inspired of God and Christ, but of Satan. As my Mom told me years ago when I was a child, one of Satan's primary goals is to break up families. The WTS does this SO well.
Perhaps your 'staying in' is an opportunity to start quietly and supportively showing others the obvious problems and errors with the WTS. There are others here who do the same. You could be a sort of 'man of the inside'. Time and time again people have tried directly and honestly to show the WTS the error of their ways, as well as a wish to correct and improve things only to be DF'ed (my uncle was one). This is one big reason it is identified as a destructive religious cult. You can't question 'Mother'.
Be very watchful of your children. Many JWs suffer from mental illness because of the focus on 'everything is bad' and the fact that they have no reassurance that they will make it through Armageddon or even be considered for resurrection if they pass on. The WTS is NOT the Truth.
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Do Not Say: "The Society Teaches"!
by compound complex inwt 1998 - 3/15 p.19 .... .
"in order to avoid misunderstandings, jehovahs witnesses try to be careful about how they express themselves.
instead of saying, "the society teaches," many witnesses prefer to use such expressions as, "the bible says" or, "i understand the bible to teach.
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The puppet masters don't want the strings to show.
This is the ulitmate definition of slimey. At work, managers that do this are called 'Teflon Men'. Hmmm... I think it fits here too.
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Strange pics---Tell me what they mean
by cameo-d inhere is a pic of st. paul....what is this thing on his head?.
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btw, it comes from this website: http://www.dioceseofscranton.org/ecumenism/ecumenismhomepage.asp.
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He could be a Jaffa ancestor.
Teal'c is a Jaffa who is one of the leading authorities on the Goa'uld on Earth. Once serving the System Lord Apophis as his First Prime, Teal'c defected in the series premiere, "Children of the Gods", and returned with SG-1 to the SGC. He has since been a valued member of SG-1, and, since the Goa'uld's fall from power, a member of the Jaffa High Council.
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"Apostates can only criticize , tear down and destroy "
by BluesBrother in"apostates can only criticize , tear down and destroy " say the active dubs, "where is their hope of something better?
what is their message to mankind ?
if they have nothing better to offer, how can they attack our faith, which at least offers a hope of a better world?".
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Right On, sir82!
Oh, I do so love the "where else shall we go" excuse. It's as needy as you can get - and a cheap cop-out.
Shamus100, this has always fascinated me. I don't understand this. Why do you have to go anywhere? If someone does, then my answer to them is... "If you need to go anywhere, go to the Bible." Then I would add..."Stephen Covey is good too!" Maybe I should add on "Get's some exit-counselling while you're at it."
LOL @ betterdaze
OlinMoylesGhost, you're 100% correct! I'm curious, though, as to how JWs can possible know anything about apostates. Aren't they supposed to shun them; have nothing to do with them? So in effect, by using this statement, they must have violated their own doctrines. Interesting. So then it follows that they have become apostates by the very fact that they have done something they weren't supposed to do.
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..."You Know It`s the Truth!!"...
by OUTLAW in...................."you know it`s the truth!!
"..........................how many times have you heard that?............jehovah`s witness you know..know you don`t go to meetings,assemblys or anything else wbt$ related......still they feel the need to tell you "you know it`s the truth!.........................you tell them,you don`t..they insist that you do!
!..you continue to tell them you don`t..............they get pissed and tell you:"deep inside you know it`s really the truth!!
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Yes Outlaw, almost every day along with....you should have a bible study.
And then when you get there, you're actually studying a WTS book with the Bible to back it up. This is NOT a Bible study.
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Posted on behalf - ladies, please share your thoughts and comments
by passwordprotected ini am a lifelong jw, a born-in true believer for most of my life.
eventually i had the awakening and have been pulling away from the religion, even though we still attend meetings.
i am willing to keep up appearances if it means saving my relationship with my wife and our close family.
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password... your role here is to positively support your wife. "Begin With The End In Mind" (and by 'end' I don't mean the end of the world.) What is it that you wish to accomplish? Have you read Steven Hassan's books? I also like Stephen Covey's works as he looks at what people need in order that they may have a fulfilled life and talks about True North Principles.
I agree with those that say the fear of Armageddon and the fear of having ever lasting life taken away are the mechanisms that keep people 'in' this cult.... and also keep them coming back! Perhaps you can start reading the Bible with her, outside of the 'doctrines' and publications since she doesn't seem to be hung up on these. When you read a part of the Bible, ask her what SHE thinks it means or what her first thoughts are that come to mind.
In some ways, JWs are addicts. They have been manipulated into believing that this is the real deal. Perhaps an exit-counselor would be the best thing for the both of you.
What are your plans in life together? Do you have any? Perhaps you could start making some. Start getting your wife 'forward' looking. In my experience, the JWs in my family never do much of this because the Big A is coming 'soon'.
Another big problem I see with JWs is that they believe that 'service to Jehovah' is what has been defined by the WTS. Perhaps you could talk to your wife about this. Ask her what HER definition of 'works' is. Does she really believe handing out false doctrines in the form of Watchtower and Awake! magazines is what God wants of his people? If everyone did this as the WTS would like, who would be healing sick people (doctors, nurses, psychologists, etc), feeding us (farmers), educating and teaching us (family members, teachers, professors, researchers, authors, etc), transporting goods to us (truckers, distributors), producing and repairing machinery (machinists, metal workers, mechanics, etc)? I see all of this, and much more, as 'works'.
I truly find that the WTS creates disabled thinkers. They shutdown the JWs abilities to think, and therefore, act, for themselves. What is needed is to overcome this and create enabled thinkers.
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Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable
by minimus inhere's one example: being a congregation publisher.
nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.
they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..
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That handing out Watchtower and Awake! magazines is one of the main definition of 'works' in God's eyes.
That the gates of heaven closed in 1935.
That the 'faithful and discreet slave' is a committee of 9-12 men known as 'The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses' in Brooklyn, N.Y., U.S.A.
That the JWs are God's 'one true people/religion'.
