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  My New Thoughts on Adam and Eve (don't laugh)

  by xjwsrock in

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  warning for those that are still believers... this train of thought will not be faith strengthening.... i have come a long way since first stumbling on crumbs of ttatt in 2012.

  (i have not come nearly as far with the wife unfortunately, but such is life.

  ) my critical thinking ability, thankfully, is in another stratosphere since figuring out i was a jw lab rat.

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  Well, obviously, you're thinking way too much. In order to have faith, you must abandon logic, reason, truth, and intellectual honesty. If you do not, you get into trouble. Once you know a thing, you can't unknow it. Like how the human genome project shows we originated in Africa, not the Middle East.

  If one is to believe that the Adam and Eve story is literal truth, then what follows, logically, is that the entire human race is a product of incestuous relationships. Logic raises far more questions than the Bible or Christians have made up answers for.
  
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  Why all the hate...

  by Dystopia in

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  ...toward jehovah's witnesses?

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  My Father is a JW... and I love him. I just don't love his religion.
  
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  Hidden Abuse Under Watchtower

  by MicaSmith in

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  the center for investigative journalism whose website is now called revealnews.org, has an entire section on stories being investigated by their staff and others on how the watchtower is handling child abuse cases.. "the jehovah’s witnesses have systematically instructed leaders to keep child sexual abuse secret from law enforcement and members of their own congregations.

  " https://www.revealnews.org/topic/jehovahs-witnesses/.

  please share you thoughts on this issue because i really would like to know when the governing body and their lawyers are going to properly address this issue because i can't worship in a place that allows dangerous men in, that's what they accused the catholic church of doing and now here it is that they are caught doing the same thing but have not expressed any concern for the victims.

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  Mica said: Who gave these 7 men the authority to ignore the health consequences of child abuse?

  Their delusional belief that they are God's Chosen did.

  I have said it many times ... the JW formula of Pray More + Wait on Jehovah = People Get Hurt/Sick/Dead.
  
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  Money....

  by The Rebel in

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  i believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete.

  i am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but i am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more money"..ummm i need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch t.v screen to be happy.

  money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what i mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?.

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  Try living in poverty and see how happy you are.
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  Start A Butterfly Garden!

  by Bonsai in

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  time to take a break from debating religion.

  take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

  how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

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  It's cool and wet here in Ontario, Bonsai. We have a winter storm warning out for today, freezing rain for my area, snow further north.
  
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  I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites

  by Terry in

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  please post your favorites too.

  my favorite quotations:.

  you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.

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  "Once you know a thing, you can't unknow it." - Ginni Rometty

  "Once you see the man behind the curtain, the magic is lost."

  "To terrify children with the image of hell, to consider women an inferior creation - is that good for the world?" - Christopher Hitchens

  "Watch your thoughts; they become words.
  Watch your words; they become actions.
  Watch your actions; they become habits.
  Watch your habits; they become character.
  Watch your character; it becomes your destiny. " - Frank Outlaw

  "You cannot raise a man up by calling him down." - William Boetcker

  "Leadership is doing what is right when no one is watching." - George Van Valkenburg

  "If we lose the forests, we lose everything." - Bill Mollison

  "Though the problems of the world are increasingly complex, the solutions remain embarrassingly simple." - Bill Mollison

  "When we work with nature instead of trying to impose our will, the solution is often found within the problem." - David Holmgren

  "You can solve all the world's problems in a garden." - Geoff Lawton

  "Every mystery ever solved has turned out to be NOT magic." - Tim Minchin
  
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  Hidden Abuse Under Watchtower

  by MicaSmith in

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  2. child-abuse

  the center for investigative journalism whose website is now called revealnews.org, has an entire section on stories being investigated by their staff and others on how the watchtower is handling child abuse cases.. "the jehovah’s witnesses have systematically instructed leaders to keep child sexual abuse secret from law enforcement and members of their own congregations.

  " https://www.revealnews.org/topic/jehovahs-witnesses/.

  please share you thoughts on this issue because i really would like to know when the governing body and their lawyers are going to properly address this issue because i can't worship in a place that allows dangerous men in, that's what they accused the catholic church of doing and now here it is that they are caught doing the same thing but have not expressed any concern for the victims.

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  Vidiot said:
  

  @ Heaven...

  Sure doesn't paint the Bible in an awfully positive light, does it?

  Agreed. Many Christians have not really read their Bibles. I know because when I quote these scriptures to Christians, they have no idea they exist. I didn't either until I started viewing the Bible away from the religion I was raised in.

  When I analyze it, I see religion maneuvering their 'flocks' through the Bible, handpicking the scriptures that prop up their agendas. Doctrine and dogma come from mostly male religious authority figures wanting power and control. And most do not wish to admit evil within their religion or their own leaders for this brings scrutiny, doubt, and questioning God's favour of them.
  
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  Donmojis - Donald Trump Emoji's (the Oatmeal)

  by Simon in

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  the oatmeal is always brilliant, these are funny:.

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  see: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/donmojis for the complete set.

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  I... Can't... NOT... Look....

  Wow... this....
  
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  Hidden Abuse Under Watchtower

  by MicaSmith in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the center for investigative journalism whose website is now called revealnews.org, has an entire section on stories being investigated by their staff and others on how the watchtower is handling child abuse cases.. "the jehovah’s witnesses have systematically instructed leaders to keep child sexual abuse secret from law enforcement and members of their own congregations.

  " https://www.revealnews.org/topic/jehovahs-witnesses/.

  please share you thoughts on this issue because i really would like to know when the governing body and their lawyers are going to properly address this issue because i can't worship in a place that allows dangerous men in, that's what they accused the catholic church of doing and now here it is that they are caught doing the same thing but have not expressed any concern for the victims.

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  Mica said: This would explain why when I was a child, and even as an adult, other witnesses minimized the brutality committed by my mother against her children.

  The Bible supports abuse. Example:
  

  Psalms 137:9: Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. - NIV

  Religions' foundational books are full of harmful ideals.
  
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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

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  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  The Scotsman said: I still believe in a God - but not in Religion.

  Serious question for you TS... I am curious why you only believe in a God and not a Goddess?