Posts by Heaven

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

Heaven

The brain controls everything. I suggest feeding it useful information and not religious claptrap. Take a critical thinking course. Alter the way your brain thinks.

I used to have horrible nightmares about Armageddon, for some reason my version was being drowned by a tidal wave deep inland (I don't live anywhere near any major coastline). Once I discovered Armageddon was a fantasy dreamt up by religious wackos, those nightmares stopped. The 'falling off the cliff' dreams have also ceased.

With my Dad's dementia, he was seeing things that weren't there. Like the house being on fire several times at 2 and 3 in the morning (so why wasn't the smoke alarms going off?), or the several drug deals that were happening on my street (NOT).

He also told me he forgot to feed the cows and was so distraught over that. I assured him it was ok as he sold them years ago.

Every mystery ever solved has turned out to be NOT magic.

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Cover of the September 2016 Watchtower.

by jwfacts in

the cover of the 2016 september watchtower has an islander couple preaching.

the brother looks like he may be fijian in a traditional skirt standing in a river, doing a presentation on an apple ipad.

i can't imagine there are many families that can afford an ipad in the pacific islands.

Heaven

I find it very interesting that JWs never seem to be preaching to real tribal peoples? You know, the ones that don't wear much, if any, clothing and carry large spears or bows and arrows?

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Confusing Opinions with Facts

by cofty in

in a discussion about the best flavour of ice cream everybody's opinion is equally valid.. in a discussion about the shape of the earth or the origin of species everybody's opinion is equally irrelevant.

only objective facts and evidence matter.. confusing these two categories is a common feature of conversations in this forum.

people deserve respect, errors do not..

Heaven

Anders said: @Heaven,

<sarcasm>Yeah right, as if anyone would get that</sarcasm>

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Does the governing body know what they are doing?

by Gefangene in

what do you guys think?.

are they only some uber religious zealots or do they pursue hidden agendas beyond religiosity?.

Heaven

Seriously, how can anyone in the industrialized world state there is more evidence of the existence of God's Kingdom in Heaven than evidence supporting the existence of electricity, gravity, and wind?! (ala Stephen Lett)

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Confusing Opinions with Facts

by cofty in

in a discussion about the best flavour of ice cream everybody's opinion is equally valid.. in a discussion about the shape of the earth or the origin of species everybody's opinion is equally irrelevant.

only objective facts and evidence matter.. confusing these two categories is a common feature of conversations in this forum.

people deserve respect, errors do not..

Heaven

Just as a general suggestion for those on the board, if you are posting sarcastic comments, I suggest placing them between the following delimiters:

<sarcasm> write text here </sarcasm>.

That way, there will be no confusion.

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Does the governing body know what they are doing?

by Gefangene in

what do you guys think?.

are they only some uber religious zealots or do they pursue hidden agendas beyond religiosity?.

Heaven

They think they do, but in reality, they do not.

For example, if you took these guys and dropped them in the middle of the Kalahari desert, would they be able to survive? I'm thinking no.

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[RECAP] Southern California day-at-the-beach

by Happy Guy in

jw
friends

thank you to everyone who made it out to the beach yesterday.

it was a fantastic event.

by my count, there were about 60 people.

Heaven

That's a very nice picture, Happy Guy. I really like it.

Thanks so much for sharing this. Wish I could have been there. Instead I was in the office meeting up with a colleague from Newfoundland. He told us about 'Iceberg Towing'. I think this could be my next career move!

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"Just don't overthink the truth"

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

so after almost a year of complete inactivity and non attendance, i ran into a nice brother from the local congregation.. after some nice chit-chat, he says "we really miss you and your family...etc...you were always the kind and supportive one, the approachable and encouraging one in the congregation.

your absence has confused so many".

i thanked him and said "oh no, no individual has stumbled us.

Heaven

I watched my parents become disabled thinkers thanks to Botchtower. Both my parents also became chronically ill. The human brain is meant to be inquisitive. Attempting to shut this down causes problems.

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Environmentalists? Not Necessarily, Helping Nonetheless....

by Doubtfully Yours in

whether the average jw appreciates it or not (i certainly do not), the wtbts sure is helping in the environmentalists' movement of creating as much a paperless society as possible in order to preserve trees and create other favorable situations for humanity, such as avoiding so much trash and chemical waste involved in the printing/shipping process.. in order to help me adjust to this new phase within the org, i've reasoned it all this way.

anybody else recognizes that this going all out electronic/computerized is, of course, first a most profitable effort, but also has a secondary benefit of helping out to preserve the environment.......?!.

dy.

Heaven

JW_Rogue said: JWs don't care much about the environment,

I experienced this firsthand when recycling became the norm in our province. My Mom was livid that she had to start sorting her garbage. I asked her why she didn't think we should be looking after the Earth? She didn't really give an answer but my suspicion is that the JW mindset of 'God is going to fix everything once Armageddon comes' was very prevalent there.

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Running ahead of Jehovah can be done with a slow walk.

by donny in

a few days ago i read a post of someone who has recently awakened to what the watchtower bible and tract society really is.

in their comments, they stated that they had been accused of "running ahead of jehovah.".

"running ahead of jehovah" was a statement levied at me many times during my convoluted journey through that organization.

Heaven

smiddy said: I guess Jehovah and/ or the organization have never heard the fact that "The distance between two points is a straight line"
As opposed to tacking

Good point smiddy. I think that only goes to show that their goal is not to be at all straight with anyone. I've never found any religion's mathematical or geological or orienteering abilities to be any good at all.