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  Ever-changing teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses - probably the most comprehensive compendium about Watchtower doctrinal changes

  by WTS Archive in

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  two days ago a new book was released for download, called "ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses".

  it was originally written by a polish jw scholar (who never was a jw himself) włodzimierz bednarski, with a help from szymon matusiak, who was a jw and an elder, and is a result of years of labourious work to compile quotes regarding every single doctrine the book describes.

  it covers the most important changes in years 1879—2015.

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  slimboyfat said: See page 6 of The Photodrama of Creation for example, under the heading "The Fifth Day or Epoch". and See also pages 31 and 32 of The Divine Plan of the Ages.
  

  Thank you for posting this slimboyfat. I KNEW there had to be some document(s) of Botchtower's that my Mom had read. She did a complete 180 on Evolution when I was in my teens, telling me that there was something to the Theory of Evolution after all. I was left in shock. This was just one of a few things that occurred as I grew up that led me to the conclusion this religion was/is not for me.
  
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  The smug arrogance of "having the truth".

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  has anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.

  perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.

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  Once my parents became baptized and 'zealous' in the truth, they became holier-than-thou, self-righteous, mean-spirited a$$holes. But their aging knocked the wind out of this particular adopted type of sail for them. So much for "never growing old in this system of things".
  
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  Do you work a lot of overtime?

  by hoser in

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  what is the normal attitude as to working overtime?

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  how many hours do you work in a week?.

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  So far I've been allowed to bank the hours and take them off in lieu of getting paid.

  Here's another little tidbit that I didn't mention. We used to bank our hours in a company tool/application. NOW we just track these hours personally/privately. That way, the government doesn't know how many hours are being worked as overtime.
  
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  Do you work a lot of overtime?

  by hoser in

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  what is the normal attitude as to working overtime?

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  how many hours do you work in a week?.

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  I agree hoser, but this not paying overtime to salaried employees is a widespread North American corporate model at the moment. So far I've been allowed to bank the hours and take them off in lieu of getting paid. But they raise their eyebrows when I tell them how much time that is. I'd really like to have the choice of getting paid or taking the time. But it's all about managing expenses now. Luckily, I don't have a smartphone for work... yet. They eliminated the pagers as these were costing money (Yay!).

  When they call me at home, I don't answer (this is one reason I continue to have a land line). Of course, I am rarely home during my off time anyways so that's kind of a no-brainer. I was up front with my last manager and former team lead. I told them straight... if you want me off hours, you pay me to carry a pager, otherwise, I'm unavailable and you will not get me.
  
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  Challenge to Creationists

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  in response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.

  predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.

  entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.

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  Dagney, Hawking's "Genius" series looks very interesting. Unfortunately, it isn't playing for me (I'm in Canada). Are there any other links that might work? I looked on YouTube but nothing direct there yet.
  
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  До свидания! Russia

  by sp74bb in

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  our sources in the russian front do confirm it.

  service desk of russian branch is being transferred urgently to finland.. до свидания russia :).

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  So I guess Armageddon is truly coming for Russian JWs. Meanwhile, all is clear here on the North American front.

  Perhaps Armageddon is going to be a regional thing.
  
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  Do you work a lot of overtime?

  by hoser in

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  what is the normal attitude as to working overtime?

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  I work anywhere from 9 to 16+ hour days. Overtime is mandatory in my job. But the horrible OT doesn't always happen and I'm not always busy. We used to work a 7.5 hour work day but as our company went 'global', that was altered to an 8 hour day (which is really a fantasy at least for me). I work at least an hour or more of overtime every day (and I don't get paid for it).

  A close friend of mine works like 60+ hour weeks. This is the new North American corporate model. They've actually congratulated themselves on keeping expenses being down but increasing productivity. They do this by piling workload on people instead of hiring. It's month by month, quarter by quarter. Most companies are now about managing expenses. She and I are both burning out.
  

  I want to be more like kairos, kaik, or joe.
  
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  Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

  by raven in

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  2. experiences

  i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

  anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

  i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

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  The brain controls everything. I suggest feeding it useful information and not religious claptrap. Take a critical thinking course. Alter the way your brain thinks.
  

  I used to have horrible nightmares about Armageddon, for some reason my version was being drowned by a tidal wave deep inland (I don't live anywhere near any major coastline). Once I discovered Armageddon was a fantasy dreamt up by religious wackos, those nightmares stopped. The 'falling off the cliff' dreams have also ceased.
  

  With my Dad's dementia, he was seeing things that weren't there. Like the house being on fire several times at 2 and 3 in the morning (so why wasn't the smoke alarms going off?), or the several drug deals that were happening on my street (NOT).

  He also told me he forgot to feed the cows and was so distraught over that. I assured him it was ok as he sold them years ago.

  Every mystery ever solved has turned out to be NOT magic.
  
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  Cover of the September 2016 Watchtower.

  by jwfacts in

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  the cover of the 2016 september watchtower has an islander couple preaching.

  the brother looks like he may be fijian in a traditional skirt standing in a river, doing a presentation on an apple ipad.

  i can't imagine there are many families that can afford an ipad in the pacific islands.

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  I find it very interesting that JWs never seem to be preaching to real tribal peoples? You know, the ones that don't wear much, if any, clothing and carry large spears or bows and arrows?
  
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  Confusing Opinions with Facts

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a discussion about the best flavour of ice cream everybody's opinion is equally valid.. in a discussion about the shape of the earth or the origin of species everybody's opinion is equally irrelevant.

  only objective facts and evidence matter.. confusing these two categories is a common feature of conversations in this forum.

  people deserve respect, errors do not..

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  Heaven

  Anders said: @Heaven,

  <sarcasm>Yeah right, as if anyone would get that</sarcasm>