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  List of "pagan" things JW's allow

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  what i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.

  the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.

  for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.

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  notsurewheretogo said: Smurfs are pagan aren't they? And they are allowed?

  I dunno... but my JW Mom gave me a Papa Smurf stuffed doll. I still have it. * grin *
  
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  List of "pagan" things JW's allow

  by problemaddict 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.

  the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.

  for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.

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  Neckties. And Black Cats. Also, Black Cats in Neckties... I'm pretty sure they are uber Pagan and acceptable.
  

  
  
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  Sin Inherited Humankind

  by looter in

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  so jws believe all humans have faults, problems, birth pangs, etc., because we all inherited sin from the original human being adam.

  like i would like this to make since but why would jehovah do this to future humans who have done nothing wrong at all?

  i think of it like if a parent has one child and that child really disobeyed her before then when the parent has a second child, she punishes that child because of what her first did.

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  The orignal sin concept 'validates' a multi-billion dollar industry selling mythology as truth. Without original sin, there is no need for the Church.

  Religion is legalized fraud.
  
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  slimboyfat joins the Mormons!

  by slimboyfat in

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  i know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.

  at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.

  in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.

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  LOL @ Outlaw. Joseph Smith... once a fraudster always a fraudster, at least, in his case.
  
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  Do flat earth beliefs deserve respect?

  by azor in

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  what say you.

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  No. Check out Eratosthenes of Cyrene and how he figured out the Earth's surface was curved.
  
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  Why do people need religion in this century?

  by sweetgrass in

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  i think people need religion because of fear.

  fear of death and what will happen at death if they have been good or bad.

  people say it gives them hope but is this not born too out of fear of not seeing dead loved ones again, or having a better life in the afterlife?

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  Some people need their security blanket.

  
  
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  "New Heavens & New Earth" (Why The Need For New Heavens?)

  by NoMoreHustle in

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  i have been thinking about this phrase lately "new heavens & new earth".

  the new earth piece i guess i can see that one...... (still not really sure about that one) .

  but why the need for "new heavens"?

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  "New"... is a marketing and sales aid.
  
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  slimboyfat joins the Mormons!

  by slimboyfat in

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  i know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.

  at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.

  in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.

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  Heaven

  Perhaps you can make it your life's quest to discover what happened to the golden tablets/plates.
  
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  Who are the "Inactive"?

  by thereishope in

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  this was my starting point in this journey of rediscovery, and i've made great strides, but here i am again asking the same question.

  all this talk re the rc and the shunning of the inactive ones.

  there is no announcement made obviously about "shun sister so-and-so, as she is inactive.

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  My Dad is inactive. He has a brain disease called frontotemporal lobe dementia. He will never be active again
  
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  Anti-religion T-Shirt idea

  by Simon in

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  i want a t-shirt.

  something that says "religion is crap, i don't care which one".. i was thinking of adapting the "coexist" one to say "toxic" instead which is great because it removes 'science' but includes all the major world religions.. anyone else have any ideas?.

  also a tag-line ... "whatever god you worship, he's a weirdigan".

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